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Post by northernsoul on Mar 11, 2024 14:55:07 GMT
Why the fcuk would i want to watch Spanish football ? Ooops i forgot yes i have been to two Real Mallorca games in Palma when i had an appt out there. So why make a point on it's finances and ability to spend , when it's quite well known that Spanish football is in financial turmoil and doesn't have any money. Youre having a laugh The Spanish league is dolling out money to every top division club and virtually every one of them are making stadium improvements. Both the top 2 clubs will be off like a shot to form the super league if they can get enough other clubs to play against. And any reductions in spending are down to the two of them having to fund the rest of Spanish football between them and not because the two clubs in question dont generate more cash than anywhere else in the world
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Post by happyblue on Mar 11, 2024 15:16:11 GMT
So why make a point on it's finances and ability to spend , when it's quite well known that Spanish football is in financial turmoil and doesn't have any money. Youre having a laugh The Spanish league is dolling out money to every top division club and virtually every one of them are making stadium improvements. Both the top 2 clubs will be off like a shot to form the super league if they can get enough other clubs to play against. And any reductions in spending are down to the two of them having to fund the rest of Spanish football between them and not because the two clubs in question dont generate more cash than anywhere else in the world Dollin out the money , please provide proof ? Your argument is Spain can spend money without finding it , la liga transfer spending has been falling for years , NS if your going to make a point back it up. Here is mine www.statista.com/statistics/782317/la-liga-tv-rights-revenue-received-by-football-teams-in-spain/www.goal.com/en/lists/barcelona-run-out-financial-levers-mess-disaster-inevitable/blt3bf95b8c81325102
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Post by blue22 on Mar 11, 2024 15:42:01 GMT
I think what others have gone for would make him a 60 million pound player which if we are getting 20% or close to it would be a nice tidy some to invest in everything that needs done at BP etc. I do not see him staying at Everton given their financial issues so summer transfers should be interesting.
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Post by munchymagic on Mar 11, 2024 17:12:36 GMT
Just like when they had Wayne Rooney - once the transfer window opens and those scousers sniff the cash then he will be off in a shot.
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Post by northernsoul on Mar 12, 2024 1:07:10 GMT
As you full well know i have better things to do then go searching the internet for links But if you look at the sites of all the top clubs they all recieved vast sums towards stadium renovations And from the very link that you sent me comes this cracker In 2022/23, Real Madrid earned around 155.8 million euros in broadcasting payments from La Liga, more than any other club. Barcelona was not far behind, receiving just over 155 million euros.And at Barcelona try looking at the last 30 years every time they need money they just sell the club back to the fans Who like idiots fall for it even though buying into it supposedly entitles you to a ticket for any specific game but they fail to do the maths that 250k fans and 80k tickets it simply doesnt add up and then theres the fact that for every game its common knowledge that the club sell 20k tickets to what are essentially ticket touts.
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Post by northernsoul on Mar 12, 2024 1:12:14 GMT
I think what others have gone for would make him a 60 million pound player which if we are getting 20% or close to it would be a nice tidy some to invest in everything that needs done at BP etc. I do not see him staying at Everton given their financial issues so summer transfers should be interesting. Well it looks like a deal may well have already been done in that Man Utd are keen to lay down a marker for their fans and have offered Everton a deal where they will pay 40m up front in cash if Everton take him off the market and the other 40m over the four years of the contract Just how lucky can these Piataks get I bet Jenkins is on the verge of topping himself if this turns out to be correct.
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Post by ccu on Mar 12, 2024 8:22:49 GMT
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Post by happyblue on Mar 12, 2024 9:08:28 GMT
As you full well know i have better things to do then go searching the internet for links But if you look at the sites of all the top clubs they all recieved vast sums towards stadium renovations And from the very link that you sent me comes this cracker In 2022/23, Real Madrid earned around 155.8 million euros in broadcasting payments from La Liga, more than any other club. Barcelona was not far behind, receiving just over 155 million euros.And at Barcelona try looking at the last 30 years every time they need money they just sell the club back to the fans Who like idiots fall for it even though buying into it supposedly entitles you to a ticket for any specific game but they fail to do the maths that 250k fans and 80k tickets it simply doesnt add up and then theres the fact that for every game its common knowledge that the club sell 20k tickets to what are essentially ticket touts. Once again , that's not the argument, we are talking about transfer fees? You are not actually arguing your point as per. It's like someone going the price of cheese is high and you arguing with the price of beans .
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Post by blumineauxnoir on Mar 12, 2024 9:39:06 GMT
So long as there continues to be interest from Spain where the clubs dont have to find the money to be able to spend it his value wont drop below 80m NS have you been watching Spanish football ? They have ridiculous FFP rules , it's spending has been falling for year and Barcelona wage cap has been cut by tenfold in the last few years . Only team with money is Madrid , who themselves are cutting it close with the mbappe move . Aren`t Barcelona around £1B in debt ? There was a post I read a year or so back, that they should be bankrupt right now, but they keep fudging figures, and getting around it somehow, by shady financial stuff. Mess was on close to £1m a week, and they have/had several other really high earners, on wages not far from that. Umtiti is a name that rings a bell, that was apparently on a really high wage, they wanted to get rid of. Too big to fail though, and will get bailed out by someone at some point, when with debts like that, they should be shut down.
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Post by northernsoul on Mar 12, 2024 12:01:35 GMT
As you full well know i have better things to do then go searching the internet for links But if you look at the sites of all the top clubs they all recieved vast sums towards stadium renovations And from the very link that you sent me comes this cracker In 2022/23, Real Madrid earned around 155.8 million euros in broadcasting payments from La Liga, more than any other club. Barcelona was not far behind, receiving just over 155 million euros.And at Barcelona try looking at the last 30 years every time they need money they just sell the club back to the fans Who like idiots fall for it even though buying into it supposedly entitles you to a ticket for any specific game but they fail to do the maths that 250k fans and 80k tickets it simply doesnt add up and then theres the fact that for every game its common knowledge that the club sell 20k tickets to what are essentially ticket touts. Once again , that's not the argument, we are talking about transfer fees? You are not actually arguing your point as per. It's like someone going the price of cheese is high and you arguing with the price of beans . My argument is exactly that. To put it in a sentance if either Real Madrid or Barcelona want to buy a player for 100m they both have the wherewithal do do that however much in actual debt they are Businesses do not fail because of debt they fail when cash flow disappears Are you really trying to tell me you think either of thems cash flow is about to disappear any time soon ?
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Post by keithmallard on Mar 12, 2024 12:35:58 GMT
Few years back I got well acquainted with a few Spaniards working in finance and law. It was when we were trying to break Colemansn into the Spanish market - Colemans are a mustard company, you've probably heard of it. Anyway I'm having a catch up with one of the lads (hermanos they call them in case you doubt my credentials). It wasn't really a business meeting, it was more a social occasion. They start late due to the weather so even though it was knocking on midnight we'd not been on the beers long, a few halves (they tend to serve them in halves, presumably because the heat makes them go flat.) So I was talking to Ramon (he was Spanish, hence the name) and we're speaking mostly in English, even though I'd picked up a good bit of the lingo. I'd said, Ramon I'm on business with Colemans mustard as you know because we think there's a chance of us breaking the market here - this was in andalusia - and while I'm here I'm keen to know just how the likes of Real Madrid can always pay these big fees. Ramon smiled and said, Keith I'll talk you through it all, it's devilishly cunning (not his exact words) but also quite simple. Eye opening night and not one to be forgotten, always recommend a visit to that part of the world. Needless to say, we got the contract Keith
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Post by ccu on Mar 12, 2024 14:07:32 GMT
Speaking of Real:
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Post by happyblue on Mar 12, 2024 14:07:43 GMT
Once again , that's not the argument, we are talking about transfer fees? You are not actually arguing your point as per. It's like someone going the price of cheese is high and you arguing with the price of beans . My argument is exactly that. To put it in a sentance if either Real Madrid or Barcelona want to buy a player for 100m they both have the wherewithal do do that however much in actual debt they are Businesses do not fail because of debt they fail when cash flow disappears Are you really trying to tell me you think either of thems cash flow is about to disappear any time soon ? Yes, I am telling you that the facts say yes , Real Madrid are fine , although still have the spending cap But yes in the case of Barcelona, who have had a spending cap put on them, they are trying to sell players , having to get players to take wage cuts. Barcelona are broke It's a case of Spanish club now, as Barcelona have tried to cheat the system and ended up in disaster. www.statista.com/statistics/764962/budget-equipment-from-football-from-the-league-in-spain-2015-2016/www.goal.com/en/lists/barcelona-run-out-financial-levers-mess-disaster-inevitable/blt3bf95b8c81325102
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Post by northernsoul on Mar 12, 2024 14:24:56 GMT
Once again from your own link FC Barcelona: struggling financially?
The FC Barcelona’s net profit in 2022/2023 was the highest recorded since over one decade, surpassing 350 million euros. Versus the previous season, this represented an increase of 260 percent. Meanwhile, the Spanish club’s operating revenue also reached a record of 1.26 billion euros. Nonetheless, FC Barcelona lost one spot in the annual salary cap ranking in the 2023/2024 season.They are not broke Yes They just have more debt than probrably theyre happy with But it wont be causing any loss of sleep for the simple reason i quoted earlier in that if raising money becomes urgent they just sell the club to the supporters which i believe theyve done twice in the last 50 years already.
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Post by happyblue on Mar 12, 2024 14:32:17 GMT
Once again from your own link FC Barcelona: struggling financially?
The FC Barcelona’s net profit in 2022/2023 was the highest recorded since over one decade, surpassing 350 million euros. Versus the previous season, this represented an increase of 260 percent. Meanwhile, the Spanish club’s operating revenue also reached a record of 1.26 billion euros. Nonetheless, FC Barcelona lost one spot in the annual salary cap ranking in the 2023/2024 season.They are not broke Yes They just have more debt than probrably theyre happy with But it wont be causing any loss of sleep for the simple reason i quoted earlier in that if raising money becomes urgent they just sell the club to the supporters which i believe theyve done twice in the last 50 years already. NS , you've haven't managed to cherry pick and not read the rest. Very adapt for you, what they have done to make that profit is to sell future commercial revenue, TV revenue etc.
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