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Post by bstandbob on Mar 27, 2024 0:42:28 GMT
Can't believe he didn't get on. Southgate clearly won't chance him in the Euros. Today was the perfect opportunity to try him out. Bellingham's equaliser has saved him from lots of criticism. Agree, just don't have confidence in him to get the best out of the talent we have this summer. The hype around Branthwaite this season has been huge, every day linked to either Madrid, City or Man U. To not even give him a chance to stake a claim tells me he knows who he wants to take and didn't want to complicate things for himself. Ridiculous Dunk at 32 is ahead of him.
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Post by blumineauxnoir on Mar 27, 2024 6:24:23 GMT
Expected to log in this morning, to hear he`d got on the pitch, what a clueless ****wit, southgate is.
Makes me think he`s been given a target to win the Euro`s, otherwise he`s out.
So he won`t risk picking/taking him, and will pack the squad with experience.
Seems like an injury is his only hope of getting in now.
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Post by twinkletoes on Mar 27, 2024 8:33:37 GMT
Everyone seems to agree that England's biggest issues are defensive frailties. In all other areas Southgate probably has too much to choose from. The experienced defenders such as Maguire and Dunk have both made mistakes in the friendlies.
JB will get his chance undoubtedly, once he moves to a more 'fashionable' club. After all, Mainoo gets a game who is far less experienced but is a Man Utd 'starlet'
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Post by knacks on Mar 27, 2024 8:49:54 GMT
Everyone seems to agree that England's biggest issues are defensive frailties. In all other areas Southgate probably has too much to choose from. The experienced defenders such as Maguire and Dunk have both made mistakes in the friendlies. JB will get his chance undoubtedly, once he moves to a more 'fashionable' club. After all, Mainoo gets a game who is far less experienced but is a Man Utd 'starlet' 💯. Always wonder why take experience and not form players. Our experience is not winning tournaments. Lewis Dunk 34 and far from good enough. Lukaku done him the other week for Roma against Brighton. Braithwaite won’t get a look in now until after the Euros. Maguire simply no. Southgate is too negative. We won’t win it.
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Post by carlislesaint on Mar 27, 2024 9:52:55 GMT
i dont get this too negative thing. If you back 4 & keeper are rubbish & you dont trust them, then you cant be on the front foot all the time. One ball over the top & its 1-0.
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Post by heilkmoon on Mar 27, 2024 10:17:45 GMT
Dunk's error for the second goal was terrible, agree that Branthwaite is unlikely to get in the squad after not getting on though.
Although our defence is suspect, some of our much hyped forward players for all their talent don't seem quite able to deliver on the big occasions as yet. What makes Bellingham stand out is that he actually does come up with key goals and assists when it matters. The likes of Foden and Grealish, there's a lot of nice touches and "street football" as I heard it called last night, but often for all the fancy fannying about it doesn't translate to goals in big games.
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Post by 183blue on Mar 27, 2024 11:26:12 GMT
I agree about people raving about attacking players, yet they can’t finish. Sick of hearing how this player and that player are the best thing since sliced bread, yet they couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo. They always going on about the squad of 23 , but when it comes down to its , there are 7 or 8 of those who will barely get a kick. Must be a bit demoralising if you are the 5th choice right back, drafted in as cover because of a raft of dubious injuries. I’m not sure I would wish that fate on Branthwaite.
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Post by blencathra on Mar 27, 2024 12:22:04 GMT
Dunk's error for the second goal was terrible, agree that Branthwaite is unlikely to get in the squad after not getting on though. Although our defence is suspect, some of our much hyped forward players for all their talent don't seem quite able to deliver on the big occasions as yet. What makes Bellingham stand out is that he actually does come up with key goals and assists when it matters. The likes of Foden and Grealish, there's a lot of nice touches and "street football" as I heard it called last night, but often for all the fancy fannying about it doesn't translate to goals in big games. I agree. Although we played some decent stuff at times the fact is our esteemed midfield and forwards relied on a penalty and last minute equaliser for us to escape defeat.If they aren't taking their chances the pressure automatically shifts back onto the defence which is suspect.It doesn't look like we'll find out if Branthwaite would make a difference to it.
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Post by topstepwhinger on Mar 27, 2024 13:52:44 GMT
When Dunk made that error last night, like Crunch, I immediately thought of his identical error against Roma. He is a decent Premier defender but is basically a poor mans Maguire! Jarrad is quicker than Dunk and is also left footed and would have cleared that up without a problem. We are crying out for left sided defenders, and surely last night was the perfect opportunity to see if he could make the next step up. As others have said, he doesn't play for the right team at the moment, he soon will, however unfortunately it looks like it will come too late for the Euros. I have absolutely no faith in Southgate at all and can see him starting the Euros with Maguire, and if Shaw doesn't recover in time Trippier or another right footed left back. He will probably also start with Henderson instead of Mainoo!
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Post by bstandbob on Mar 27, 2024 14:06:59 GMT
When Dunk made that error last night, like Crunch, I immediately thought of his identical error against Roma. He is a decent Premier defender but is basically a poor mans Maguire! Jarrad is quicker than Dunk and is also left footed and would have cleared that up without a problem. We are crying out for left sided defenders, and surely last night was the perfect opportunity to see if he could make the next step up. As others have said, he doesn't play for the right team at the moment, he soon will, however unfortunately it looks like it will come too late for the Euros. I have absolutely no faith in Southgate at all and can see him starting the Euros with Maguire, and if Shaw doesn't recover in time Trippier or another right footed left back. He will probably also start with Henderson instead of Mainoo! Mainoo is a big bonus and as others have stated will provide the perfect balance in MF with Rice and Bellingham, however I fully expect Henderson in there come the summer. Still annoyed today about JB not been given an opportunity last night, Really struggling to get my head around why? He's exactly what we need, young,in form, left footed and calm and composed. Phil McNulty said in his report for BBC that he thought it was a mistake, obviously we have a lot to gain with Jarred been successful but it does seem bizzare.
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Post by ccu on Mar 27, 2024 14:13:51 GMT
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Post by vallery on Mar 27, 2024 14:26:43 GMT
Maybe it's to do with perception of the way their club teams play? Brighton/DeZerbi are a passing team who look to dominate the ball whereas Everton/Dyche are viewed as being a bit more direct, and happy for the other team to have the ball.
It doesn't mean Branthwaite can't play a different style of football but if Brighton play closer to how Southgate wants England to play it's easier to pick him. "Just play like you do at Brighton" Vs "Dyche might want you to knock the ball into the channel there but I want you to look for a midfielder on the half turn"
Wonder who Pickford would rather have in front of him?
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Post by topstepwhinger on Mar 27, 2024 14:30:28 GMT
Plus JB has been playing all season in a terrible team and yet one who have one of the best defensive records in the league!
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Post by wukkie on Mar 27, 2024 16:39:12 GMT
I said every other defender would get a game ahead of JB. I would also class Everton as a bigger club than Brighton so that excuse doesn't wash.
He's actually costing us money now by not playing him.
Semi's at best and then the usual bottle job.
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Post by 09sider on Mar 30, 2024 19:09:49 GMT
Should Branthwaite or Pickford went for the ball that went over them for Bournemouth's winner?
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