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Post by happyblue on Jul 23, 2024 14:44:19 GMT
Their asking price isn’t necessarily what they think his value is. If they don’t have to sell and are not particularly interested in selling then they’re well within their rights to put a highly inflated figure on his head. If someone’s daft enough to meet that figure then they’re laughing, if it scares other clubs off, nobody willing to go that high and he stays then they’ll be equally as happy. I think 60m might have got the deal over the line and might have been better value than paying 52m for the French lad thats unproven in the premier league. For every Virgil van Dijk theres a Donny van de Beek. Yes that Virgil Van Dijk who only played 80 premier matches before his move to Liverpool.
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Post by pigletphoenix on Jul 23, 2024 14:52:09 GMT
He hadn't played any Premier League games before Southampton signed him.
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Post by bstandbob on Jul 23, 2024 14:52:45 GMT
Think he would make an ideal replacement for Van Dijk. He will be 34 next summer so you would imagine that Liverpool will be progression planning for him potentially going for a Saudi pay day. Whether JB would make that move or not could possibly be the sticking point.
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Post by happyblue on Jul 23, 2024 15:43:15 GMT
He hadn't played any Premier League games before Southampton signed him. He wasn't a big money risk then though.
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Post by vallery on Jul 23, 2024 15:48:05 GMT
Think he would make an ideal replacement for Van Dijk. He will be 34 next summer so you would imagine that Liverpool will be progression planning for him potentially going for a Saudi pay day. Whether JB would make that move or not could possibly be the sticking point. Don't think Everton would sell to Liverpool. Who was the last person to make the trip across Stanley Park? Barmby?
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Post by pigletphoenix on Jul 23, 2024 16:01:29 GMT
He hadn't played any Premier League games before Southampton signed him. He wasn't a big money risk then though. £13 million isn't big money to you?
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Post by happyblue on Jul 23, 2024 16:46:32 GMT
He wasn't a big money risk then though. £13 million isn't big money to you? Not in the context of the premier league, it is a decent fee, although VVD by then also had show his talents in Europe as well playing 27 times in 3 years.
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Post by pigletphoenix on Jul 23, 2024 16:53:10 GMT
£13 million isn't big money to you? Not in the context of the premier league, it is a decent fee. In 2015, when he signed for Southampton, this fee made him the most expensive Dutch defender since Jaap Stam moved to Manchester United. We're in 2024, several TV deals into the future at this time. Context is the very thing you're missing, unsurprisingly.
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Post by 09sider on Jul 23, 2024 17:52:42 GMT
Think he would make an ideal replacement for Van Dijk. He will be 34 next summer so you would imagine that Liverpool will be progression planning for him potentially going for a Saudi pay day. Whether JB would make that move or not could possibly be the sticking point. Don't think Everton would sell to Liverpool. Who was the last person to make the trip across Stanley Park? Barmby? Abel Xavier was the last transfer from Goodison to the red shite, in 2002.
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Post by happyblue on Jul 23, 2024 18:15:57 GMT
Not in the context of the premier league, it is a decent fee. In 2015, when he signed for Southampton, this fee made him the most expensive Dutch defender since Jaap Stam moved to Manchester United. We're in 2024, several TV deals into the future at this time. Context is the very thing you're missing, unsurprisingly. I'm really not, you're trying to be clever which is something unsuited to you , the fact that he's a record Dutch transfer is really a moot point in regards to context of this debate and you are using it as you have very little validity to your point.
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Post by pigletphoenix on Jul 23, 2024 18:41:09 GMT
In summer 2015 the average price paid for a defender in the Premier League was £5.7m.
The average price paid for a goalkeeper was £3.5m
The average price paid for a forward was £7.1m
The average price paid for a midfielder was £10.3m.
In the context of transfer fees paid in the Premier League that summer, especially for defenders, by every definition Van Dijk's move was a big money move.
Sucks to be you, dear.
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Post by happyblue on Jul 24, 2024 7:30:56 GMT
In summer 2015 the average price paid for a defender in the Premier League was £5.7m. The average price paid for a goalkeeper was £3.5m The average price paid for a forward was £7.1m The average price paid for a midfielder was £10.3m. In the context of transfer fees paid in the Premier League that summer, especially for defenders, by every definition Van Dijk's move was a big money move. Sucks to be you, dear. Yawn , really doesn't , as you've still not got the point...you never do.
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Post by blumineauxnoir on Jul 24, 2024 12:34:46 GMT
Surprised that VVD was sold for £13m, even if it was almost 10 years ago, highly rated youngsters now seem to be fetching 4-5 times that.
Of which JB is one. VVD would have been described as a "Wonderkid" back then, something JB can claim himself also.
You want high potential wonderkids, that will have long careers, and you can sell for a fortune...you pay for them.
Of course, you could end up with another Fredddy Adu or Kennedy Bakiriouglu, but that`s the risk you take.
12 months from now, JB could have had an even better season for Everton, as they qualify for Europe, and he makes his claim for a place in the England starting lineup.
Then next July, he can finally get his move to Real Madrid, and for £150m, and we`ll get an even better payoff, just by being patient.
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Post by pigletphoenix on Jul 24, 2024 15:06:37 GMT
Surprised that VVD was sold for £13m, even if it was almost 10 years ago, highly rated youngsters now seem to be fetching 4-5 times that.
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Post by smoggyblue on Jul 24, 2024 15:21:16 GMT
In summer 2015 the average price paid for a defender in the Premier League was £5.7m. The average price paid for a goalkeeper was £3.5m The average price paid for a forward was £7.1m The average price paid for a midfielder was £10.3m. In the context of transfer fees paid in the Premier League that summer, especially for defenders, by every definition Van Dijk's move was a big money move. Sucks to be you, dear. Van Dijk wasn’t a summer signing
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