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Post by saltyseadog on Aug 6, 2025 9:11:32 GMT
Breeze Davies/Ellis Hayden Thomas Harper Whelan Grant/Macadam/Ellis Embleton Luamba Armstrong Linney Seems to me MH will utilize Kelly & Ajiboye as a combo to unleash off the bench with Luamba’s work rate from the start needed if we’re light in midfield. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Robson leave this week as it’s very clear he is not highly regarded. Really surprised Tom White was not targeted as a back up to Grant. I’m hoping MH is waiting on a loan from somewhere . The midfield area is a curious and concerning situation. Has the club not been able to find someone good enough to sign permanently or do they think just signing Grant is enough? If they are waiting around for loanees then that's also a big ' why?' We shouldn't be relying on young loanees to start in our midfield, so I'm at a loss to what MH is thinking regarding the CM area. Starting Ellis the first game of the season looks rather tinpot and takes a player out of position. Why oh why are we needing to do this when we have had the budget and all preseason to get the right players in on permanent deals,? It makes no sense to me whatsoever going into our first game with a glaring hole in the team. You've definitely had all preseason, so that can only mean... No, surely not; that's just a conspiracy theory.
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Post by bstandbob on Aug 6, 2025 9:13:18 GMT
If Grant was fit and available then the situation has a completely different complexion imo. Personally I do think Ellis will prove to be a decent player in that position and more than capable at providing cover. It's just a shame that he needs to provide cover for the first game of the season which makes the situation feel unprepared. But clearly we need and want another midfielder which would then complete the squad for now imo. The fact we didn't go in for White suggests to me that we are out to get better and hopefully we are just being patient and have something in the pipeline.
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Post by nobbyblue on Aug 6, 2025 9:49:12 GMT
Breeze Ellis Magabi Hayden Harper Whelan Grant Embleton Ajiboye Armstrong Linney If Grant not fit Harper in midfield and Murray at LB *They’ve missed a trick not getting Nick Haughton in! Have you seen much of Haughton? Not a lot but have seen some of his goals and a lot of managers seems to rate him. STATS: 2021–22 National League North 41 appearances 26 goals 2022–23 National League North 42 appearances 26 goals 2023–24 National League 43 appearances 18 goals 2024–25 National League 45 appearances 19 goals Not bad figures by anybody's standard. I would have pushed the boat out on him. Perhaps Captain Tom didn't fancy the outlay.
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Post by garnyam on Aug 6, 2025 10:11:30 GMT
I agree we need a holding midfielder, but I think people are overestimating the utter dross that we're largely going to come up against next season. Let's not all have a meltdown at the prospect of facing Woking, eh? . Allow me to wet my bed just this once, please 
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Post by kirbyblues on Aug 6, 2025 10:38:07 GMT
Have you seen much of Haughton? Not a lot but have seen some of his goals and a lot of managers seems to rate him. STATS: 2021–22 National League North 41 appearances 26 goals 2022–23 National League North 42 appearances 26 goals 2023–24 National League 43 appearances 18 goals 2024–25 National League 45 appearances 19 goals Not bad figures by anybody's standard. I would have pushed the boat out on him. Perhaps Captain Tom didn't fancy the outlay. Impressive stats Wonder why he didn't get an EFL move, he's not young so possibly 0% chance of any return on investment put a lot of clubs off He would be competing with Wesrne & Embleton is that CAM position
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Post by happyblue on Aug 6, 2025 10:54:43 GMT
Not a lot but have seen some of his goals and a lot of managers seems to rate him. STATS: 2021–22 National League North 41 appearances 26 goals 2022–23 National League North 42 appearances 26 goals 2023–24 National League 43 appearances 18 goals 2024–25 National League 45 appearances 19 goals Not bad figures by anybody's standard. I would have pushed the boat out on him. Perhaps Captain Tom didn't fancy the outlay. Impressive stats Wonder why he didn't get an EFL move, he's not young so possibly 0% chance of any return on investment put a lot of clubs off He would be competing with Wesrne & Embleton is that CAM position Wearne out of interest got 11 goals , 10 assists in 21 games at Gateshead in the 23/24 season before his January move to Mk Dons.
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Post by Moonie on Aug 6, 2025 19:46:30 GMT
I agree we need a holding midfielder, but I think people are overestimating the utter dross that we're largely going to come up against next season. Let's not all have a meltdown at the prospect of facing Woking, eh? You're famous... cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14942&sid=c12ef142c1df89c4949ec399e4b2ce1a&start=25Re: Carlise game Post by wokingcardinal » Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:38 pm
"5 hours ago theboydonegood said: I agree we need a holding midfielder, but I think people are overestimating the utter dross that we're largely going to come up against next season.
Let's not all have a meltdown at the prospect of facing Woking, eh?" Glad they are not too confident then!On a serious note, this is a tough game. Their record at home is that of a difficult side to break down. They don't concede many, and they seldom lose.
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Post by theboydonegood on Aug 6, 2025 20:19:31 GMT
I agree we need a holding midfielder, but I think people are overestimating the utter dross that we're largely going to come up against next season. Let's not all have a meltdown at the prospect of facing Woking, eh? You're famous... cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14942&sid=c12ef142c1df89c4949ec399e4b2ce1a&start=25Re: Carlise game Post by wokingcardinal » Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:38 pm
"5 hours ago theboydonegood said: I agree we need a holding midfielder, but I think people are overestimating the utter dross that we're largely going to come up against next season.
Let's not all have a meltdown at the prospect of facing Woking, eh?" Glad they are not too confident then!On a serious note, this is a tough game. Their record at home is that of a difficult side to break down. They don't concede many, and they seldom lose. Yeah, well, by any measure we should be thumping them Moonie. They seldom lose because they play teams like Brackley Town week in, week out. Brackley we ain't.
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Post by pigletphoenix on Aug 6, 2025 21:14:41 GMT
You're famous... cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14942&sid=c12ef142c1df89c4949ec399e4b2ce1a&start=25Re: Carlise game Post by wokingcardinal » Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:38 pm
"5 hours ago theboydonegood said: I agree we need a holding midfielder, but I think people are overestimating the utter dross that we're largely going to come up against next season.
Let's not all have a meltdown at the prospect of facing Woking, eh?" Glad they are not too confident then!On a serious note, this is a tough game. Their record at home is that of a difficult side to break down. They don't concede many, and they seldom lose. Yeah, well, by any measure we should be thumping them Moonie. They seldom lose because they play teams like Brackley Town week in, week out. Brackley we ain't. ....yet.
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Post by camt29 on Aug 6, 2025 21:44:39 GMT
You're famous... cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14942&sid=c12ef142c1df89c4949ec399e4b2ce1a&start=25Re: Carlise game Post by wokingcardinal » Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:38 pm
"5 hours ago theboydonegood said: I agree we need a holding midfielder, but I think people are overestimating the utter dross that we're largely going to come up against next season.
Let's not all have a meltdown at the prospect of facing Woking, eh?" Glad they are not too confident then!On a serious note, this is a tough game. Their record at home is that of a difficult side to break down. They don't concede many, and they seldom lose. Yeah, well, by any measure we should be thumping them Moonie. They seldom lose because they play teams like Brackley Town week in, week out. Brackley we ain't. Brackley are way below the level Woking were playing last season. Lost 1 home game in 10 months and have made some good additions. They'll definitely be in and around the top 10 this season
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Post by theboydonegood on Aug 6, 2025 21:47:33 GMT
Yeah, well, by any measure we should be thumping them Moonie. They seldom lose because they play teams like Brackley Town week in, week out. Brackley we ain't. Brackley are way below the level Woking were playing last season. Lost 1 home game in 10 months and have made some good additions. They'll definitely be in and around the top 10 this season I think you've just made my point for me.
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Post by camt29 on Aug 6, 2025 21:49:19 GMT
Brackley are way below the level Woking were playing last season. Lost 1 home game in 10 months and have made some good additions. They'll definitely be in and around the top 10 this season I think you've just made my point for me. Don't think I have.
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Post by Moonie on Aug 6, 2025 22:22:46 GMT
We're at this level because we deserve to be. Until we prove otherwise, the likes of Woking and Altrincham are our peers now.
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Post by pigletphoenix on Aug 6, 2025 23:34:54 GMT
We're at this level because we deserve to be. Until we prove otherwise, the likes of Woking and Altrincham are our peers now. That's an interesting, but very negative, take on the situation. No arguments we're at the level we deserve to be, but is peer group only down to league status or is it also down to history, achievements, honours, and whisper it very quietly "crowd size"? I have every respect for all the clubs in tier five (except perhaps the club who tried to shove a kettle down the away team urinals at Brunton Park) and it's no slight on them to believe we should be (should be) way better than this level. So while we're equal to every other club in tier five in terms of league position, peer group? I think not.
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Post by theboydonegood on Aug 7, 2025 5:11:05 GMT
I think you've just made my point for me. Don't think I have. No, now I've read your post properly, you haven't, have you? 😂 I'll try again. Woking may not have lost much, but Woking have been playing largely rubbish teams. Woking are a rubbish team. So are we, by virtue of the level we're playing at, but I don't think we're quite as rubbish as most of this division. Perhaps we won't beat Woking but for Pete's sake, with the players at our disposal, we should be battering them.
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