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Stephane Pounewatchy
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Post by rocket on Apr 29, 2024 6:14:49 GMT
By signing these players it would seem Greg didn't appear to see what we needed, not addressing the defensive issue for starters. Virtually nothing went for us this season. Paying big money for League Two players was a bit silly really as they were not guaranteed to be able to make the step up to League One, if we had bought established League One players or higher instead (fit ones) then you give yourself a better chance of survival and a calibre of player at League Two level who can make the step up if relegation happens. It made me angry how they turned it on yesterday because they were aware that they were on SKY, when the presenters praised the odd player of how good they were it boiled my piss. Not defending the recruitment in January but it it's much more difficult to get the right people in when we were in that situation near the bottom. In hindsight we would have been better sticking with what we had and saving our cash for the summer. Ultimately we would have had the same result at worst, there could even be a case to suggest we may have picked up more points as team spirit would have been higher with Holy, Garner, Edmo ect in the team week in week out. Had we started to get the deals in place as soon as the takeover went through, or even when we tied up the Armstrong deal we weren't bottom and still stood a fighting chance of survival. We should have had 3 or 4 agreed ready to sign after the Port Vale game and it could have been a different story As for keeping the same team, Garner wanted to go for longer term security, Edmo was moving to Australia regardless so we would still have needed to replace them anyway and Holy was making too many basic errors, yes Lewis hasn't been great but in terms of direct mistakes he hasn't placed the ball at an attackers foot yet (Cheltenham at home), so given the defence in front of him I'm keen to see how he does next season
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Stephane Pounewatchy
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Post by rocket on Apr 29, 2024 6:16:30 GMT
By signing these players it would seem Greg didn't appear to see what we needed, not addressing the defensive issue for starters. Virtually nothing went for us this season. Paying big money for League Two players was a bit silly really as they were not guaranteed to be able to make the step up to League One, if we had bought established League One players or higher instead (fit ones) then you give yourself a better chance of survival and a calibre of player at League Two level who can make the step up if relegation happens. It made me angry how they turned it on yesterday because they were aware that they were on SKY, when the presenters praised the odd player of how good they were it boiled my piss. From the sounds of it we did try , but Location, league position and training facilities put them off...which is fair , ironically thats player you want not money motivated Didn't Simpson say when he first came back that the location argument was nonsense? Yet now he seems to use it at every opportunity
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Greg Out
Apr 29, 2024 7:05:56 GMT
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Post by happyblue on Apr 29, 2024 7:05:56 GMT
From the sounds of it we did try , but Location, league position and training facilities put them off...which is fair , ironically thats player you want not money motivated Didn't Simpson say when he first came back that the location argument was nonsense? Yet now he seems to use it at every opportunity Don't think so but if he did shows more about him. If he thought location wouldn't make it harder so sign players the he's delusional state was present then
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Post by northernsoul on Apr 29, 2024 8:49:42 GMT
Location isnt an issue in the slightest if a manager has the crack the confidence and the dosh to make the player think hes getting the deal that he wanted.
How many players in the last 20 years after signing have gone to the manager and said i made a mistake i cant do the location thing ?
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Apr 29, 2024 8:57:01 GMT
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Post by carwash on Apr 29, 2024 8:57:01 GMT
Location isnt an issue in the slightest if a manager has the crack the confidence and the dosh to make the player think hes getting the deal that he wanted. How many players in the last 20 years after signing have gone to the manager and said i made a mistake i cant do the location thing ? Jabo definitely struggled with the location but he still put in 100%. The Piataks to their credit know location is a big issue for some players and their partners which is why they are planning on providing 'residences' free of charge from Castle Sports Group.
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Post by northernsoul on Apr 29, 2024 9:01:55 GMT
Location isnt an issue in the slightest if a manager has the crack the confidence and the dosh to make the player think hes getting the deal that he wanted. How many players in the last 20 years after signing have gone to the manager and said i made a mistake i cant do the location thing ? Jabo definitely struggled with the location but he still put in 100%. The Piataks to their credit know location is a big issue for some players and their partners which is why they are planning on providing 'residences' free of charge from Castle Sports Group. After having spoken to him once on the train i dont think it was him who had the problem but his partner who wouldnt let him stay over when it would have been easier to and i know that Curly Keith offered to sort him out if he could get her to move up here.
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Post by markovitch1928 on Apr 29, 2024 9:02:52 GMT
Perhaps a reason why we should look at Scotland. We're an hour from Glasgow on the m74. It's an issue in Scotland that if you are a good 3rd, 4th division standard player there is nowhere to go. We offer a potential, perfect foot into the English game.
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Post by happyblue on Apr 29, 2024 9:15:28 GMT
Location isnt an issue in the slightest if a manager has the crack the confidence and the dosh to make the player think hes getting the deal that he wanted. How many players in the last 20 years after signing have gone to the manager and said i made a mistake i cant do the location thing ? Yes it is, their were a couple in January who did the drive and didnt want to , quite a few in the summer . As already Stated Jabo left due to location and they have been plenty in the past . Come NS it's just common sense that location plays a factor in player moves ,they often have young families. I know of a few lads who were offered quite a bit more by us , but they didn't want to have to stay away from their families , which I have no issues with at all.
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Post by glenstrae on Apr 29, 2024 9:16:31 GMT
Kevin Keegan had trouble attracting players to Newcastle in the 90's cos of location. People saying that it isn't a problem for Carlisle, if it was a problem for him to attract players to play for him in the top half of the Premier League, I have to say, those saying it isn't a problem for Carlisle need to consider whether they are just building a story to pedal a certain narrative.
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Post by happyblue on Apr 29, 2024 9:21:52 GMT
Kevin Keegan had trouble attracting players to Newcastle in the 90's cos of location. People saying that it isn't a problem for Carlisle If it was a problem for him to attract players to play for him in the top half of the Premier League, I have to say, this saying it isn't a problem for Carlisle need a reality check. People don't like it so refuse to accept it ,people hate the idea of things being inconvenient and refuse to accept when they are. Anyone with a brain knows that no one wants a to be driving an extra 2/3 hours a day , staying away from family, in a small city with limited night life to not have a real training facility. You'll get the players who can't get anyone else to sign them or the money motivated ones, although they are not the characters you want.
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Post by glenstrae on Apr 29, 2024 9:28:29 GMT
Kevin Keegan had trouble attracting players to Newcastle in the 90's cos of location. People saying that it isn't a problem for Carlisle If it was a problem for him to attract players to play for him in the top half of the Premier League, I have to say, this saying it isn't a problem for Carlisle need a reality check. People don't like it so refuse to accept it ,people hate the idea of things being inconvenient and refuse to accept when they are. Anyone with a brain knows that no one wants a to be driving an extra 2/3 hours a day , staying away from family, in a small city with limited night life to not have a real training facility. You'll get the players who can't get anyone else to sign them or the money motivated ones, although they are not the characters you want. 100% agree. When in that situation, and you find one or two that work out well, that should be seen as a success story really, not the norm. There are 92 clubs in the 'professional' tiers of English football, and they are all desperate to find an Owen Moxon. How often does it actually happen?
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Post by blencathra on Apr 29, 2024 10:17:40 GMT
Location is always a factor in career moves. I'm sure many people on this message board could have moved to London and earned more money there than they could for doing a similar job up here.It's a matter of personal choice whether people are actually prepared to uproot themselves from family and friends. Sometimes our location is an advantage though and I really think we are missing a trick with Scotland and the NE.
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Post by weloveyoucarlisle on Apr 29, 2024 10:30:41 GMT
Forget "OUT", Greg should never have been brought "IN". To use an old-fashioned saying, the man's an oaf.
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