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Post by northernsoul on Jan 9, 2024 0:52:25 GMT
It would fund a hell of a training facility - and pay for the waterworks to be rebuilt. You could still do that with the 18 million sitting in the account, it would still happen if you donated the money. This is free money remember, after you have blown it all by throwing it firstly at agents then straight into a footballers pocket you would still have something of value to the city in general in Carlisle colours. I couldn't see that many who would disapprove as the club would be helping the hardest hit in the community - they could even be blues themselves. Could we not just send them all to Madrid as part of the deal
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Post by blue22 on Jan 9, 2024 10:51:30 GMT
I understood our cut to be 20% which would be a huge amount for us that could be used to fund the infractucture/ facilities/ ground etc however it is paid out it will be win win for the club when he does move which given Evertons money issues, I think will happen. I would be pretty sure that if we had 20% on it and there was talk of a 100 million fee Jenkins would have been straight on the phone to McQuarries to do a deal to get some cash straight away a long time ago. Lets hope that David Reeves did good by us, it is a figure that some clubs put on their players when selling and the initial figure of 750k now seems bargain of the century for Everton if we dont have a good sell on clause, was it Holdsworth that was in charge of transfers at the time so that alone makes what happened at the time problematic. 20% is a big number agreed but I dont think that AJ and co would of been at the races in even beginning to think how much Jarrad might be worth 2 years down the road and the success he has been at Everton. Lets us hope that the three have no claim on the money, that would be a disaster, however one can speculate that AJ wanted out as there was the risk of been asked to stump up the 2.7 million without possibly having the means to do so. and the wait for any sell on money just became too long and then the Americans turned up. I think we will find out probably in the summer if the lad moves, which is more than likely.
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Post by 09sider on Jan 9, 2024 11:29:35 GMT
We weren't in a position to push Everton for a great financial deal, we had no money, no real footballing knowledge in the club and a big cheque being waved in the clubs face. I reckon we'd be lucky if Holdsworth managed to get a 10% sell on clause into the deal.
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Post by bstandbob on Jan 9, 2024 11:40:10 GMT
We weren't in a position to push Everton for a great financial deal, we had no money, no real footballing knowledge in the club and a big cheque being waved in the clubs face. I reckon we'd be lucky if Holdsworth managed to get a 10% sell on clause into the deal. I just hope it's 10%
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Post by dstander on Jan 9, 2024 13:02:15 GMT
If we did get ten to twenty million then I would hope that at least two million would be earmarked at reducing poverty in Carlisle, build some of those pods for the homeless in CUFC colours to sleep in and sort out an infrastructure that would hopefully last years and not just a flash in the pan. I know it is their business and money but if faced with that amount of a cash windfall then spending a good whack of it on inflated fees and wages to footballers just feels wrong to me, you could still do all that minus the two million. I would hope 100% of any money coming into the football club is used for the good of the football club. The thought of a lower league football club giving away a couple of million to solve a problem which arguably doesn’t exist is ludicrous.
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Post by munchymagic on Jan 9, 2024 15:43:33 GMT
If we did get ten to twenty million then I would hope that at least two million would be earmarked at reducing poverty in Carlisle, build some of those pods for the homeless in CUFC colours to sleep in and sort out an infrastructure that would hopefully last years and not just a flash in the pan. I know it is their business and money but if faced with that amount of a cash windfall then spending a good whack of it on inflated fees and wages to footballers just feels wrong to me, you could still do all that minus the two million. I would hope 100% of any money coming into the football club is used for the good of the football club. The thought of a lower league football club giving away a couple of million to solve a problem which arguably doesn’t exist is ludicrous. It is what I would do with the money pal. Pretending that homelessness does not exist however is your call.
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Post by letsboogie on Jan 9, 2024 15:54:25 GMT
We weren't in a position to push Everton for a great financial deal, we had no money, no real footballing knowledge in the club and a big cheque being waved in the clubs face. I reckon we'd be lucky if Holdsworth managed to get a 10% sell on clause into the deal. I just hope it's 10% Be lucky if it’s 5%.
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Post by crunchblue on Jan 9, 2024 17:21:30 GMT
It should be 5% at the absolute least otherwise I’d be questioning the clown who negotiated the deal on our behalf. Who was it again? *goes off to check* …. Ah
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Post by dstander on Jan 9, 2024 17:36:42 GMT
I would hope 100% of any money coming into the football club is used for the good of the football club. The thought of a lower league football club giving away a couple of million to solve a problem which arguably doesn’t exist is ludicrous. It is what I would do with the money pal. Pretending that homelessness does not exist however is your call. Well I’m glad you’re not in charge of the club’s money! You were talking about poverty specifically in Carlisle, I find it hard to believe that it actually exists. If it does I would question the individual rather than the system.
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Post by dstander on Jan 9, 2024 17:38:06 GMT
I’d be shocked if it wasn’t 10% as a minimum.
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Post by torchereh on Jan 9, 2024 19:09:01 GMT
I thought the talk was 10-15%?
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Post by munchymagic on Jan 9, 2024 19:13:48 GMT
It is what I would do with the money pal. Pretending that homelessness does not exist however is your call. Well I’m glad you’re not in charge of the club’s money! You were talking about poverty specifically in Carlisle, I find it hard to believe that it actually exists. If it does I would question the individual rather than the system. After one of the last Carlisle United games I was buying a burger from Marios on Botchergate, coming out there was a lad with his clothes in a ruck sack and really happy as it was freezing, and they had just given him a room at the Road House. I gave him some money, I had given him money before when I seen him - always coherent and a decent lad to talk to, doesn't seem to be swinging it. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I am by no means a do gooder or anything and these things may not even be allowed to be set up by anyone other than the authorities, who knows and maybe my figure was too high also but I would be throwing some coin at it in some capacity as we are a community club.
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Post by Big Brother on Jan 9, 2024 19:14:00 GMT
I thought the talk was 10-15%? There was also talk that Henderson's sell-on was 20%.
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Post by munchymagic on Jan 9, 2024 19:23:25 GMT
Holdsworth was controlling the purse strings so I would not be surprised if it was a bad deal.
Just for the fact that he did a deal that brought in nearly a million and it looked good on him for brokering it.
If he got 5-10% then it was truly a terrible deal, 15-20% however and he might not have done as bad as first thought.
A low transfer fee and a high sell on percentage may have suited Everton as he might not have made the grade or they might have decided to keep him, plus 80% guaranteed of the fee is hardly shabby.
Expectations are low however as it is Holdsworth.
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Post by torchereh on Jan 9, 2024 19:49:00 GMT
I thought the talk was 10-15%? There was also talk that Henderson's sell-on was 20%. with Henderson the facts were always there that it was never that much. 10-15% is much more believable considering we didn’t get much of a fee for Branthwaite and he was playing first team football.
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