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Post by heyheyalanshoulder on Mar 18, 2024 13:17:44 GMT
What gets me is the fact somebody felt the need to make a confidentiality agreement on a sell on clause, just why? Also, on this sort of point, there should be no hidden transfer fee, none of this undisclosed fee rubbish, with the way the finances are being combed over with that profit and sustainability/FFP stuff, things should be made very clear so clubs can't pull any fast tricks with the figures. As for Branthwaite, I hope he gets a chance to work under Pep, he will make him into the next John Stones and that would be good for everybody. THIS ! Who on earth puts an NDA on a future transfer clause ? This isn`t philip schofield, and his young friend, it`s an agreement for a portion of the next transfer, to go to the initial club. It makes no sense why they would try to hide this, and make it all a bit suspicious. If Stones went for, £80m was it ? Then surely a similar, or hopefully higher fee, is what he will move for. English players are are in demand for top clubs, with the homegrown players rule, so I could see one of the big clubs, shelling out BIG for him. Stones went for 50m including add ons and I'm sure they will have been fulfilled by now lol. Branthwaite should be higher as prices have gone up again and of course, as you said English tax on him is crucial.
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Post by wukkie on Mar 18, 2024 17:05:44 GMT
The NDA will have Nixon's fingerprints all over it. The Piatak's started very open and henst but in time I'm sure he'll be advising them to keep things a bit closer to their chests (or vests if you're North American).
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Post by happyblue on Mar 18, 2024 17:30:24 GMT
The NDA will have Nixon's fingerprints all over it. The Piatak's started very open and henst but in time I'm sure he'll be advising them to keep things a bit closer to their chests (or vests if you're North American). It's just common practice in football, Majority of transfers are undisclosed.
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Post by keithmallard on Mar 18, 2024 18:36:34 GMT
I can confirm that my contacts around Merseyside have confirmed that the sell on fee has been confirmed as between 15-20%, this was confirmed at the transfers completion.
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Post by uptheduke on Mar 18, 2024 18:40:55 GMT
I can confirm that my contacts around Merseyside have confirmed that the sell on fee has been confirmed as between 15-20%, this was confirmed at the transfers completion. Keith Is that confirmed?
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Post by ccu on Mar 18, 2024 18:41:30 GMT
Usually the bigger Club in a Deal who insists on details regarding clauses and the likes being kept hush…
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Post by howie on Mar 18, 2024 21:07:43 GMT
Usually the bigger Club in a Deal who insists on details regarding clauses and the likes being kept hush… So it was us then?
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Post by northernsoul on Mar 19, 2024 8:07:55 GMT
The NDA will have Nixon's fingerprints all over it. The Piatak's started very open and henst but in time I'm sure he'll be advising them to keep things a bit closer to their chests (or vests if you're North American). It's just common practice in football, Majority of transfers are undisclosed. Once the regulator is in place that will be a thing of the past as will the hiding of players wage deals along with a lot of other stuff relating to agents.
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Post by happyblue on Mar 19, 2024 8:09:27 GMT
Players wages I don't mind being hidden , I wouldn't want my pay spread about , so would by hypocritical.
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Post by blumineauxnoir on Mar 19, 2024 8:59:24 GMT
It's just common practice in football, Majority of transfers are undisclosed. Once the regulator is in place that will be a thing of the past as will the hiding of players wage deals along with a lot of other stuff relating to agents. Is this regulator going to have any power though ? Don`t most of the top clubs, pay their wages, through offshore companies ? There was a TV program about it a few years back, might have been an episode of Dispatches on C4, but it detailed how they shift the money about. Think it was what they went after Rangers for, despite almost every top club doing the same thing, with their players. I knew nothing about this regulator, until you mentioned it NS, but I`m looking forward to it happening, and hopefully it will cause some panic, and we`ll finally see just how shady the money in football has been, and for a bloody long time !
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Post by northernsoul on Mar 19, 2024 9:29:32 GMT
Once the regulator is in place that will be a thing of the past as will the hiding of players wage deals along with a lot of other stuff relating to agents. Is this regulator going to have any power though ? Don`t most of the top clubs, pay their wages, through offshore companies ? There was a TV program about it a few years back, might have been an episode of Dispatches on C4, but it detailed how they shift the money about. Think it was what they went after Rangers for, despite almost every top club doing the same thing, with their players. I knew nothing about this regulator, until you mentioned it NS, but I`m looking forward to it happening, and hopefully it will cause some panic, and we`ll finally see just how shady the money in football has been, and for a bloody long time ! Well i.ve been to two different events about what to expect from the regulator and the impression you get is that his main role will be to stick up for the smaller clubs against the bigger ones. The PL clubs know that its coming and that all they can do is to try and negate its effects on them and not voting/voting against the deal last week was just part of that a bit like stamping your feet but i.m told the more they do that then the more onerous the regulations would be if they have to come from regulation and there is already a mechanism ready to be put in place where the money would be removed before it gets to a position where the PL clubs would get to vote on it never mind have any say in the amounts involved. But problem at the minute it seems is this issue of punishing clubs by docking points and whether punishing them financially would be better in other words if you overspend by say 25m over the 3 year period then you would have 25m million less to spend in the next period but this is being complicated by FIFA/UEFA constantly changing their rules and what theyre now bringing in would mean that solution couldnt be implemented. But all this will soon come to a head because theres a growing movement amongst a number of the lower PL clubs who are demanding that the PL finally get on and take action against Man City and refusing to go to a vote on the redistribution of the money to the EFL was just a part of that action. And on that issue the rest of the lower half PL clubs are going to push Forest to appeal their points deduction and throw the whole league into confusion as a way of bringing the Man City issue to the top of the jobs to do list.
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Post by heyheyalanshoulder on Mar 19, 2024 10:32:00 GMT
I can confirm that my contacts around Merseyside have confirmed that the sell on fee has been confirmed as between 15-20%, this was confirmed at the transfers completion. Keith Well that handily covers all the other folks predictions of between 15 and 17% then, splendid. I wish I had connections 🙄
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Post by heyheyalanshoulder on Mar 19, 2024 10:37:32 GMT
Is this regulator going to have any power though ? Don`t most of the top clubs, pay their wages, through offshore companies ? There was a TV program about it a few years back, might have been an episode of Dispatches on C4, but it detailed how they shift the money about. Think it was what they went after Rangers for, despite almost every top club doing the same thing, with their players. I knew nothing about this regulator, until you mentioned it NS, but I`m looking forward to it happening, and hopefully it will cause some panic, and we`ll finally see just how shady the money in football has been, and for a bloody long time ! Well i.ve been to two different events about what to expect from the regulator and the impression you get is that his main role will be to stick up for the smaller clubs against the bigger ones. The PL clubs know that its coming and that all they can do is to try and negate its effects on them and not voting/voting against the deal last week was just part of that a bit like stamping your feet but i.m told the more they do that then the more onerous the regulations would be if they have to come from regulation and there is already a mechanism ready to be put in place where the money would be removed before it gets to a position where the PL clubs would get to vote on it never mind have any say in the amounts involved. But problem at the minute it seems is this issue of punishing clubs by docking points and whether punishing them financially would be better in other words if you overspend by say 25m over the 3 year period then you would have 25m million less to spend in the next period but this is being complicated by FIFA/UEFA constantly changing their rules and what theyre now bringing in would mean that solution couldnt be implemented. But all this will soon come to a head because theres a growing movement amongst a number of the lower PL clubs who are demanding that the PL finally get on and take action against Man City and refusing to go to a vote on the redistribution of the money to the EFL was just a part of that action. And on that issue the rest of the lower half PL clubs are going to push Forest to appeal their points deduction and throw the whole league into confusion as a way of bringing the Man City issue to the top of the jobs to do list. they'll be a reason the case against man city is dragging on, no good evidence is my guess, same as when eufa tried it, I believe the PL are going to try ans use some of the same evidence that has already failed. A City fan mate thinks they might be fined guilty for paying Mancini a fee to stay unemployed until they could sack Hughes, also the grass being to long v Liverpool who complained and it was an inch to long lol and of course, non cooperation again. Though the Everton and Forest cases are for completely different things
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Post by northernsoul on Mar 19, 2024 11:45:59 GMT
But whether any of that is true or not just offer them a 950 million pound fine to make it go away now. Then offer the dissenting PL clubs that the PL will use the 950m to make the EFL matter go away for now and providing the sign now they’ll have a free ride for the next 5 years to let them get their houses in order which is the argument that they're currently using against agreeing to it now.
I think i should apply for the Regulator position, sorting this out is a piece of piss compared to sorting out the 50 awkward bitches that work for me every week is
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Post by northernsoul on Mar 19, 2024 11:51:40 GMT
Well i.ve been to two different events about what to expect from the regulator and the impression you get is that his main role will be to stick up for the smaller clubs against the bigger ones. The PL clubs know that its coming and that all they can do is to try and negate its effects on them and not voting/voting against the deal last week was just part of that a bit like stamping your feet but i.m told the more they do that then the more onerous the regulations would be if they have to come from regulation and there is already a mechanism ready to be put in place where the money would be removed before it gets to a position where the PL clubs would get to vote on it never mind have any say in the amounts involved. But problem at the minute it seems is this issue of punishing clubs by docking points and whether punishing them financially would be better in other words if you overspend by say 25m over the 3 year period then you would have 25m million less to spend in the next period but this is being complicated by FIFA/UEFA constantly changing their rules and what theyre now bringing in would mean that solution couldnt be implemented. But all this will soon come to a head because theres a growing movement amongst a number of the lower PL clubs who are demanding that the PL finally get on and take action against Man City and refusing to go to a vote on the redistribution of the money to the EFL was just a part of that action. And on that issue the rest of the lower half PL clubs are going to push Forest to appeal their points deduction and throw the whole league into confusion as a way of bringing the Man City issue to the top of the jobs to do list. they'll be a reason the case against man city is dragging on, no good evidence is my guess, same as when eufa tried it, I believe the PL are going to try ans use some of the same evidence that has already failed. A City fan mate thinks they might be fined guilty for paying Mancini a fee to stay unemployed until they could sack Hughes, also the grass being to long v Liverpool who complained and it was an inch to long lol and of course, non cooperation again. Though the Everton and Forest cases are for completely different things But UEFA don't run the league that they play in tho do they ? Nothing to stop the PL proposing there would be going forward only be one team in Manchester and then if the other 19 teams voted for it they'd be out on their arses. I would suggest if City are offered a monetary solution however large to make it all go away they would bite your hands off.
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