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Post by pigletphoenix on Apr 8, 2023 20:10:48 GMT
They'll be screwed if they finally come up this year, won't they?
After the disclosure of the wages they're paying it seems clear they will not be allowed to continue with this policy when they're forced to comply with FFP rules and wages are linked to turnover.
I wonder how many of their squad will be forced to take paycuts or will be sold to bring them under the 60% or whatever it is?
The whole point of FFP is to ensure clubs are managed sustainably, I don't think anyone could argue Wrexham have been doing this.
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Post by moonie on Apr 8, 2023 21:01:10 GMT
They'll be screwed if they finally come up this year, won't they? After the disclosure of the wages they're paying it seems clear they will not be allowed to continue with this policy when they're forced to comply with FFP rules and wages are linked to turnover. I wonder how many of their squad will be forced to take paycuts or will be sold to bring them under the 60% or whatever it is? The whole point of FFP is to ensure clubs are managed sustainably, I don't think anyone could argue Wrexham have been doing this. About time FFP is applied outside of the top 4 divisions, otherwise it's going to cause problems somewhere down the line. Personally don't have anything against Wrexham, they're a proper club - but the current media circus has me hoping that County slaughter them on Monday... |
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Post by tuesdayblue on Apr 8, 2023 21:59:56 GMT
If the thousands of glory boys that went to Halifax had been there for the last ten years, there would have been no need for Hollywood
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Post by pigletphoenix on Apr 8, 2023 22:48:33 GMT
I'm against FFP as a concept.
It's anti-competitive.
If someone wants to invest a ton of dosh in a football club then they should be allowed to, no risk no reward - like any other business.
If it goes tits-up and the administrator is called in then the punishment should be simple - expulsion from all leagues and the requirement to start again from the bottom of the pyramid.
FFP protects the teams higher up in the pyramid as it prevents the teams lower down spending to compete, so it increases the likelihood of the rich staying rich and the poor staying poor.
That said, if all division four clubs are bound by the rules then Wrexham (if promoted) should be forced to comply as well, otherwise it will be a less than level playing field.
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Post by northernsoul on Apr 8, 2023 22:57:33 GMT
They'll be screwed if they finally come up this year, won't they? After the disclosure of the wages they're paying it seems clear they will not be allowed to continue with this policy when they're forced to comply with FFP rules and wages are linked to turnover. I wonder how many of their squad will be forced to take paycuts or will be sold to bring them under the 60% or whatever it is? The whole point of FFP is to ensure clubs are managed sustainably, I don't think anyone could argue Wrexham have been doing this. Pretty sure that when you wade thru the bullsit in the regulations in the first year back in the league players with existing contracts in effect dont actually count towards the FFP calculations as they are given a nominal value and wage figure which is without doubt a fraction of the actual figures and you also have to remember they will no doubt be submitting their figures based on each game being a total sell out giving them a FFP figure 3 times what a club with a typical lge 2 club with 3.5k gates would have. The way the system is set up to work is to encourage a club to stick with its existing players and not go on a recruitment spree for the sake of it and maybe the best example is Stockport who did just that but then loaned out 5 or 6 under contract players to enable them to bring in some new faces. I think the problems come in years 2 and 3 [if you have players on 2 and 3 year contracts] when the leeway youre given in year one rapidly reduces to zero at the start of year four meaning that if say Mullin was on a 5 year contract from the start of 22/23 in his last year his full wages would count towards the FFP figure. Given that Mullin is only reputed to be on 4.5k a week so long as the majority of the rest arent on much more than 2.5k on 10k gates i dont think that they.ll have too much trouble staying within FFP and dont forget if you have owners willing to fund other expenses out of their own pockets its presents less strain on income meaning less strain on the FFP figures. Also as was reported after they were turned down for 1.5 million pounds worth of funding from one of those government schemes they postponed the start of work on construction of the new stand rather than the owners just saying **** it and chucking in 750k each to get work under way as quickly as possible which possibly points to their pockets not being as deep as some might think and dont forget things like shirt sponsorship have an effect on the figures and i cant see Tik Tok doing it on the cheap remembering that the likes of Andy Holt at Accy use this as a way of injecting money into the club thats disregarded by FFP by paying over the odds for the sponsorship to in effect circumvent the FFP regulations. |
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Post by nobbyblue on Apr 9, 2023 7:55:54 GMT
Carlisle turned down a very sizeable offer for Callum Guy from Wrexham apparently. Hard to believe mind
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Post by bstandbob on Apr 11, 2023 13:04:29 GMT
I really don't have a problem with what's going on at Wrexham, it's fantastic that lower league football is getting a look in on the global stage. The PL gets so much coverage all over the world and you could argue that it's one of our most profitable exports. However been a supporter of a lower league team we all dream of someone coming along and transforming our fortunes overnight, history says that the bubble will probably burst at some point, but I'm sure the majority Wrexham fans will be thoroughly enjoying everything going on there. Good luck to them and I will look forward to playing them next season if we don't get promoted.
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Post by ccu on Apr 11, 2023 14:15:12 GMT
Wrexham should be in the League of Wales alongside Cardiff, Swansea and Newport…  |
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Post by bstandbob on Apr 11, 2023 14:28:26 GMT
Wrexham should be in the League of Wales alongside Cardiff, Swansea and Newport… What are your purist views on Chester & should Berwick Rangers be forced into the English pyramid? |
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Post by wukkie on Apr 11, 2023 16:17:01 GMT
Let's have Jersey and Guernsey in the French Leagues!
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Post by ccu on Apr 11, 2023 23:00:47 GMT
Wrexham should be in the League of Wales alongside Cardiff, Swansea and Newport… What are your purist views on Chester & should Berwick Rangers be forced into the English pyramid? I was being a touch sarcastic Bob, hence the smiley…  |
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Post by pigletphoenix on Apr 26, 2023 7:01:00 GMT
Is it possible to sign Bale and stay within the salary cap?
Given what they're already paying their players, it seems like they would be cheating (if true).
What punishment do you get if you wilfully ignore the cap? Will they be docked points or demoted?
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Post by phartsandsmall on May 2, 2023 19:29:23 GMT
I wish that they would just **** off! Every bloody time I turn on the TV or go on social media! Another reason to be out of League 2 in August. The hype will be unbearable.
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Post by yorkieblue on May 2, 2023 20:08:54 GMT
I wish that they would just **** off! Every bloody time I turn on the TV or go on social media! Another reason to be out of League 2 in August. The hype will be unbearable. Aye, League 2 will consist of two media darlings in Wrexham and Salford City , oh, and 22 other nondescript teams. |
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Post by pigletphoenix on May 2, 2023 22:05:14 GMT
Can we not just ask someone in Hollywood to buy our club? That would piss all over their chips.
Who could bitch Reynolds? In old money I'd have gone for Christopher Walken, maybe Dwayne Johnson would be interested due to his obvious links to Currock?
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