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Post by glenstrae on Sept 4, 2023 12:37:14 GMT
Any takeover should involve reducing the Trust's shares in the Club, a potential owner should be free to come in and run the Club as they see fit without the Trust having any say. They don't have any value to be sitting at the top table, just because Mileson gave them some money a few years ago. The whole point of the Trust was to have a seat at the table and hold the Club to account on behalf of the the fans. All they have done is cosy up to them and they have actually become part of the problem. They have no meaningful way of raising any substantial investment, and are partly to blame for the current predicament we find ourselves in with Purepay. 25% owners of the Club need to take a 25% portion of the blame for allowing the Club to paint itself in to a corner. If they are serious about being a true a supporters club then they should get back to selling tickets for coaches and organising the mascots. That is the level they are capable of operating at. I think thats a bit unfair and if thats what people believe then I think peoples expectations are unrealistic. The trust gives the fans a voice at the table, it hasn't got the power to hold anyone to account with only 25%, thats not even mathematically possible.
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Post by 09sider on Sept 4, 2023 13:22:34 GMT
I totally agree that the trust gives the fans a voice, my only concern is will the board listen. In addition to having a voice, being able to hear what is being said by the the board is as important as having input into discussions. The potential new owners have advanced the board/fan interaction immeasurably, and long may it last if the takeover actually happens.
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Post by moose on Sept 4, 2023 16:11:55 GMT
Any takeover should involve reducing the Trust's shares in the Club, a potential owner should be free to come in and run the Club as they see fit without the Trust having any say. They don't have any value to be sitting at the top table, just because Mileson gave them some money a few years ago. The whole point of the Trust was to have a seat at the table and hold the Club to account on behalf of the the fans. All they have done is cosy up to them and they have actually become part of the problem. They have no meaningful way of raising any substantial investment, and are partly to blame for the current predicament we find ourselves in with Purepay. 25% owners of the Club need to take a 25% portion of the blame for allowing the Club to paint itself in to a corner. If they are serious about being a true a supporters club then they should get back to selling tickets for coaches and organising the mascots. That is the level they are capable of operating at. I think thats a bit unfair and if thats what people believe then I think peoples expectations are unrealistic. The trust gives the fans a voice at the table, it hasn't got the power to hold anyone to account with only 25%, thats not even mathematically possible. So why are they there then glenstrae? The don't add any business acumen, or substantial funding. They can't even inform the members of what is happening behind the scenes, and this isn't the first time they have done this. What purpose are they actually serving to the members? When are the members meetings being held they keep promising, but can't tell anyone the date?
Oh hang on they have a weekly column in the ENS that says absolutely nothing and they send out a weekly email that summarises the social media posts of the football club that everyone is already aware of. But a least you have a chance to win a quiz! FFS!
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Post by glenstrae on Sept 4, 2023 16:44:34 GMT
If Im right in thinking they wouldn't be able to inform anyone of what's going on behind the scenes cos of the legalities of the ongoing takeover talks. I'm not connected to the trust in any way other than being a member so probably not the best person to answer those questions but what they do provide is a voice at the table at the meetings with input into discussions that are going on from the fans perspective, and however insignificant that may seem, its better than not having one, and thats worth a tenner to me. I honestly dont know enough about the running of the club and trust etc to be able to say how effective they use that voice, but I think its important to bare in mind that the trust has a limited power.
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Post by blueal on Sept 4, 2023 18:41:55 GMT
They may have limited power, but they have a voice and they have never criticised the board, as far as I'm aware. What is Lord Clark of Windermere for? Shareholder, been there years, part of the problem?
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Post by mullen103 on Sept 4, 2023 18:54:47 GMT
I’ve been extremely critical of Billy in the past on numerous occasions but I’m sure at the “after the Swindon” meeting he put the views of the supporters across.
He was getting abuse as well mind so had to do something. From what he said they were some that wanted to continue with the status quo.
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Post by ccu on Sept 5, 2023 7:19:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 7:36:57 GMT
Is the live streaming open to all or just to members of CUOSC?
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Post by ccu on Sept 5, 2023 7:55:25 GMT
The Plan is for the Stream to be available to all, as mentioned in N&S Column and Briefing this week. FAO Bumble… ⬆️
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 8:58:45 GMT
Just checking
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Post by blues86 on Sept 5, 2023 9:28:25 GMT
In terms of using the opportunity to question the Americans. It's hard to do that without hearing from them in advance. Any possibility of them setting out their stall before this meeting?
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Post by mullen103 on Sept 5, 2023 9:33:55 GMT
In terms of using the opportunity to question the Americans. It's hard to do that without hearing from them in advance. Any possibility of them setting out their stall before this meeting? Yeah I’ve said that numerous times. We need something from them beforehand.
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Post by moose on Sept 5, 2023 11:10:45 GMT
In terms of using the opportunity to question the Americans. It's hard to do that without hearing from them in advance. Any possibility of them setting out their stall before this meeting? Yeah I’ve said that numerous times. We need something from them beforehand. Well mullen, logic says that this should be the case and you would have thought the Trust would be in dialogue with the Club/Investor to establish some kind of announcement prior to the meeting.
But this would require some forethought and communication. Not really the Trust's forte I'm afraid.
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Post by topstepwhinger on Sept 5, 2023 12:42:56 GMT
This constant sniping at CUOSC by the usual suspects is both tiresome and disrespectful. I expect they are doing a f****** good job while others are sat on their arses.
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Post by glenstrae on Sept 5, 2023 13:05:00 GMT
Whilst as I wouldn’t go that far, I do think it is only fair to also bare in mind that it’s people giving up for own free time and effort to try and do there best on our behalf and that these things are always more complicated than they appear from the outside
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