bluesup
Ian Stevens
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Post by bluesup on Dec 9, 2023 20:59:10 GMT
Just curious what everyone thinks Jack Robinson?
Personally think should be playing Armer under current circumstances with vastly more football league experience
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thefoot
Stephane Pounewatchy
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Post by thefoot on Dec 9, 2023 23:47:59 GMT
He puts decent crosses into the box sometimes (which is wasted when we’ve no one to get on the end of them) but he seems defensively weak at times.
Armer seems like a better all round player.
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Post by 09sider on Apr 18, 2024 17:12:35 GMT
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Post by markovitch1928 on Apr 18, 2024 17:32:13 GMT
He puts decent crosses into the box sometimes (which is wasted when we’ve no one to get on the end of them) but he seems defensively weak at times. Armer seems like a better all round player. His crossing has been very good on occasions, but very poor on others. And he's another who lacks pace. I would look to loan him out with a view to moving him on.
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Post by bstandbob on Apr 18, 2024 19:15:39 GMT
We need to bring in a new left back, keep Armer and then I would look to move Jack on. Alternatively I would be interested to see how Mellish got on at LB. Think with a pair of decent CBs he could do well there with his energy and defensive capabilities.
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Post by howie on Apr 18, 2024 20:39:31 GMT
We need to bring in a new left back, keep Armer and then I would look to move Jack on. Alternatively I would be interested to see how Mellish got on at LB. Think with a pair of decent CBs he could do well there with his energy and defensive capabilities. He doesn't have defensive capabilities. That's why he is always the defender to be sacrificed when Simmo changes from a back 5 to a back 4 when we have gone behind. Often as not he is also the reason we have gone behind in the first place. Interesting that, after all the time he has been with us, people are still suggesting new positions which he might actually be good at.
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thefoot
Stephane Pounewatchy
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Post by thefoot on Apr 18, 2024 21:53:04 GMT
He puts decent crosses into the box sometimes (which is wasted when we’ve no one to get on the end of them) but he seems defensively weak at times. Armer seems like a better all round player. His crossing has been very good on occasions, but very poor on others. And he's another who lacks pace. I would look to loan him out with a view to moving him on. That quote was from December. I agree he’s been very disappointing since then and not really capitalised or improved from having a run of games. We should be looking to find another player to strengthen the competition at left back.
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Post by happyblue on Apr 19, 2024 6:45:49 GMT
We need to bring in a new left back, keep Armer and then I would look to move Jack on. Alternatively I would be interested to see how Mellish got on at LB. Think with a pair of decent CBs he could do well there with his energy and defensive capabilities. He doesn't have defensive capabilities. That's why he is always the defender to be sacrificed when Simmo changes from a back 5 to a back 4 when we have gone behind. Often as not he is also the reason we have gone behind in the first place. Interesting that, after all the time he has been with us, people are still suggesting new positions which he might actually be good at. Are you saying Mellish is often sacrificed or Armer , as Mellish has not really been sacrificed all season.
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Post by blumineauxnoir on Apr 19, 2024 7:21:48 GMT
I recall he had a couple of good games, in midfield, and hoped he`d push on from that, and keep his place in the side.
Doesn`t seem to have happened for him, so depending on how active we are over the summer, I could see him moving on.
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Post by howie on Apr 19, 2024 11:28:05 GMT
He doesn't have defensive capabilities. That's why he is always the defender to be sacrificed when Simmo changes from a back 5 to a back 4 when we have gone behind. Often as not he is also the reason we have gone behind in the first place. Interesting that, after all the time he has been with us, people are still suggesting new positions which he might actually be good at. Are you saying Mellish is often sacrificed or Armer , as Mellish has not really been sacrificed all season. Apologies if I didn't make myself clear Happy. I was referring to Mellish. The suggestion was being made that he should be tried at left back. I think this sums up the conundrum. He has been with us for 5 seasons now and still hasn't proved himself in any position. In essence I see him as a one legged square peg.
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Post by wukkie on Apr 19, 2024 12:15:07 GMT
Robinson - Conference North player, not good enough for the FL and definitely not a MF player.
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Post by happyblue on Apr 19, 2024 12:19:46 GMT
Are you saying Mellish is often sacrificed or Armer , as Mellish has not really been sacrificed all season. Apologies if I didn't make myself clear Happy. I was referring to Mellish. The suggestion was being made that he should be tried at left back. I think this sums up the conundrum. He has been with us for 5 seasons now and still hasn't proved himself in any position. In essence I see him as a one legged square peg. I think you were unclear as Mellish has rarely been substituted and more often move into midfield when we changed formation. I was more confused at the basic factual accuracy. Also not proved , did you forget about last season ? Or when he hit 16 goals from midfield in a season ?...like if your going to make a point back it up . If you think Mellish is the issue in our defence then you need to get your head screwed on , he's was our only player with any athletic ability so has had to play a hybrid of a defender and midfielder all year and do the running of our entire team.
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Post by 09sider on Apr 19, 2024 16:22:12 GMT
Robinson - Conference North player, not good enough for the FL and definitely not a MF player. Another case of Simpson favouritism, consistently poor but still picked.
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Post by howie on Apr 19, 2024 19:14:59 GMT
Apologies if I didn't make myself clear Happy. I was referring to Mellish. The suggestion was being made that he should be tried at left back. I think this sums up the conundrum. He has been with us for 5 seasons now and still hasn't proved himself in any position. In essence I see him as a one legged square peg. I think you were unclear as Mellish has rarely been substituted and more often move into midfield when we changed formation. I was more confused at the basic factual accuracy. Also not proved , did you forget about last season ? Or when he hit 16 goals from midfield in a season ?...like if your going to make a point back it up . If you think Mellish is the issue in our defence then you need to get your head screwed on , he's was our only player with any athletic ability so has had to play a hybrid of a defender and midfielder all year and do the running of our entire team. I should have known when I posted that, as his biggest fan, you would respond just like your hero, with your heart rather than your head. To meet your demands I will back that up with this:- The reason he "had to play a hybrid of a defender and midfielder all year and do the running of our entire team" is that he isn't good enough to justify a place as an out and out defender or as a midfielder. In essence he is a jack of all trades, master of none. Sadly for Jon, the "athletic ability" that you refer to, is the one footballing attribute he has, and at League 1 level it is not enough.
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Post by pigletphoenix on Apr 19, 2024 19:36:50 GMT
Re: Mellish.
"All the trainers speak on movements, on that it is necessary to run a lot. I say that it is not necessary to run so much. Football is a game which is played with the brain."
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