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Post by pigletphoenix on Jan 29, 2024 20:18:35 GMT
I’ve never been a huge fan. For a lot of second half of last season he wasn’t starting in league 2. Got talent but clearly an attitude & ego elevated. For every decent performance there’s been more poor ones. Part of a manager's job is to bring the best out of his players. Huge fail with Gibson.
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Post by dstander on Jan 29, 2024 20:23:40 GMT
After watching the Reading game I challenge anyone to an argument if they think Gibson was trying his hardest! Possibly one of the most disgraceful lack of effort I’ve ever seen in a Carlisle shirt. This was around the same time when his insistence on not tracking runners who provided overlaps which led to goals against us was also evident, no wonder Simpson lost patience with him. When Gibson’s in the mood he’s quality, when he’s not in the mood he’s a liability. He was our standout performer for the first 4 months of the season, he’s been crap ever since.
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Post by gob Bluth on Jan 29, 2024 22:31:12 GMT
I’ve never been a huge fan. For a lot of second half of last season he wasn’t starting in league 2. Got talent but clearly an attitude & ego elevated. For every decent performance there’s been more poor ones. Part of a manager's job is to bring the best out of his players. Huge fail with Gibson. Agreed it’s the managers job. But don’t see this as a fail. Name one manager who has got more out of Gibson or given him more opportunities to translate ability into performance on the pitch?
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Post by pigletphoenix on Jan 29, 2024 22:33:59 GMT
Part of a manager's job is to bring the best out of his players. Huge fail with Gibson. Agreed it’s the managers job. But don’t see this as a fail. Name one manager who has got more out of Gibson or given him more opportunities to translate ability into performance on the pitch? Fair point, however Gibson wasn't any worse (also not any better) under any of the previous incumbents he worked under. The same level of inconsistency has always been a part of his game.
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Post by garnyam on Jan 30, 2024 12:16:14 GMT
"He was our standout performer for the first 4 months of the season" More than can be said for every one of our other players then?!
Always amazes and frustrates me how supporters end up going in on a player like Gibson. There's probably only him and Moxon capable of changing a game for us, yet all some people decide to see is him not tracking back now and then or losing the ball after trying to be positive with it. How about setting the team up correctly and buying some half decent defenders so we can let the likes of Gibbo do his thing.
Actually, how about just having one of our best players starting games instead of starting with a useless and defensive back 5 and bringing him on when we are 2 or 3 down and the game is lost already!
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Post by heilkmoon on Jan 30, 2024 12:31:13 GMT
I think Gibson has delivered what most would expect of him. Inconsistent and maybe he has got a bit of an attitude, he's had a strange career after all, but he's still produced more that most of his team mates. It's as much the fact that other players around him haven't done enough (and scored enough) which has highlighted his shortcomings.
He came off pretty poorly in that Butterworth v Gibson poll on here a few weeks ago, but pro-Butterworth sentiment soon wanes after a couple of games.
Gibson's managed to shine more than Moxon has in a poor side, even though that isn't saying much.
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Post by dstander on Jan 30, 2024 14:03:18 GMT
"He was our standout performer for the first 4 months of the season" More than can be said for every one of our other players then?! Always amazes and frustrates me how supporters end up going in on a player like Gibson. There's probably only him and Moxon capable of changing a game for us, yet all some people decide to see is him not tracking back now and then or losing the ball after trying to be positive with it. How about setting the team up correctly and buying some half decent defenders so we can let the likes of Gibbo do his thing. Actually, how about just having one of our best players starting games instead of starting with a useless and defensive back 5 and bringing him on when we are 2 or 3 down and the game is lost already! Sorry mate, but you can be as good as you want but if you’re not willing to graft and do the dirty work in a game, instead leaving it to others then you’re not much use to a team who main objective is to stay up at the wrong end of the table. Don’t mind one bit him losing the ball when trying positive things, in fact I’d encourage someone like him to try things and not worry about losing the ball, as the benefits will be vital to the team. What I have got a problem with is him not chasing a decent ball down the line because he couldn’t be bothered, having a ridiculous lazy shot from 50 yards which went out for a throw simply because he couldn’t be bothered trying to make something happen and bottling nearly every challenge which came his way. All of these occurred in the first half at Reading, a disgraceful performance and an insult to the 500 odd who made the trek on a midweek night in winter. Gibson seems to choose when he can be bothered, and like I say, if he can be bothered he’s a great player. However those days seem to be getting less and less often, to the extent he becomes a liability.
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Post by garnyam on Jan 30, 2024 14:24:20 GMT
"He was our standout performer for the first 4 months of the season" More than can be said for every one of our other players then?! Always amazes and frustrates me how supporters end up going in on a player like Gibson. There's probably only him and Moxon capable of changing a game for us, yet all some people decide to see is him not tracking back now and then or losing the ball after trying to be positive with it. How about setting the team up correctly and buying some half decent defenders so we can let the likes of Gibbo do his thing. Actually, how about just having one of our best players starting games instead of starting with a useless and defensive back 5 and bringing him on when we are 2 or 3 down and the game is lost already! Sorry mate, but you can be as good as you want but if you’re not willing to graft and do the dirty work in a game, instead leaving it to others then you’re not much use to a team who main objective is to stay up at the wrong end of the table. Don’t mind one bit him losing the ball when trying positive things, in fact I’d encourage someone like him to try things and not worry about losing the ball, as the benefits will be vital to the team. What I have got a problem with is him not chasing a decent ball down the line because he couldn’t be bothered, having a ridiculous lazy shot from 50 yards which went out for a throw simply because he couldn’t be bothered trying to make something happen and bottling nearly every challenge which came his way. All of these occurred in the first half at Reading, a disgraceful performance and an insult to the 500 odd who made the trek on a midweek night in winter. Gibson seems to choose when he can be bothered, and like I say, if he can be bothered he’s a great player. However those days seem to be getting less and less often, to the extent he becomes a liability. No worries, respect your opinion. Still one of the first on my team sheet given what we have. But, perhaps that's why I'm not a football manager.
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Post by seabird on Jan 30, 2024 16:06:27 GMT
Gibson leading scorer with 7 ,the next is Moxen and Garner with 3 with Moxen the leading assists with 3 . Ok inconsistency is an issue but Gibson and Moxen are still the best we’ve got in granted a poor team. We can just hope that all the new signings improve on what already have.
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Post by moonie on Apr 29, 2024 18:29:23 GMT
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