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Post by munchymagic on Apr 7, 2024 12:33:38 GMT
But Armstrong has had chances. If Holy was still in the team as well as shipping in goals he would also have made some great saves too. The facts go to show that both new players are a downgrade on what we had. When Holy and Lewis went head to head in the play-offs Holy came out on top over two games. Holy also held his nerve at Wembley. Well that nails it then, you win, I can't debate against this logic . Don't be like that pal, as you know it is all about opinions. Armstrong is however in the same boat as every other player as in getting service for scoring and others seem to find a way of getting more goals than he has managed.
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Post by gob Bluth on Apr 7, 2024 12:52:56 GMT
Lewis is in goals under constant pressure behind a fragile defence. Holy was not up to this level & proved it with so many dreadful errors. We should have signed a L1 caliber keeper over the summer. I’d sign another experienced keeper this summer to ensure we start new season with 2 keepers with decent experience and quality.
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Post by dstander on Apr 7, 2024 13:04:38 GMT
We haven’t had a decent keeper since we got shot of Howard.
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Post by munchymagic on Apr 7, 2024 13:33:32 GMT
It is very open on valid opinions this season.
The goalkeeper is rubbish.
The goalkeeper is fine it is the defence at fault.
The forwards are crap.
The forwards are so bad because we have a poor midfield who do not create anything for them.
You could make a case for each of these and be correct.
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Post by wukkie on Apr 7, 2024 13:44:48 GMT
Well having watched all of our keepers I'd take the decision to sign a new no.1. Holy had his limitations in getting down to low shots but he was far better at coming out for crosses and claiming them as opposed to Lewis being static on his line. Simmo never came across as a fan of Holy but had Lewis not been at Bradford would we even have been interested?
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Post by munchymagic on Apr 7, 2024 13:50:59 GMT
I would guess that Lewis is on big money as well.
I think that the performances of Lewis and Armstrong are magnified because we paid a lot of money for them so you expect them to be ace.
Say there was no promotion or relegation this term and we were still in League One next season then I would say that both need replacing.
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Post by heyheyalanshoulderl on Apr 7, 2024 14:13:49 GMT
Well that nails it then, you win, I can't debate against this logic . Don't be like that pal, as you know it is all about opinions. Armstrong is however in the same boat as every other player as in getting service for scoring and others seem to find a way of getting more goals than he has managed. Sorry pal, it was a shitty reply tbh. Not sure who is scoring these goals though Gibson is the top scorer with 7, Mellish now with 5, Butterworth with 4 (in 30) Armstrong with 3 in 17 (which is poor, I do agree) Take away three games and you can take off 3 for Mellish, 3 for Gibson andd 2 for Butterworth and that would really be a shocking state of affairs and goes to show how little this team is providing goal scoring opportunities.
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Post by dstander on Apr 7, 2024 16:04:10 GMT
Well having watched all of our keepers I'd take the decision to sign a new no.1. Holy had his limitations in getting down to low shots but he was far better at coming out for crosses and claiming them as opposed to Lewis being static on his line. Simmo never came across as a fan of Holy but had Lewis not been at Bradford would we even have been interested? Holy came for a lot more crosses late on in the season last year but his reluctance to come for the most part was pretty glaring. The goal we conceded at Salford and the Stockport equaliser at home from the pitchside camera were good examples.
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Post by 09sider on Apr 7, 2024 17:05:17 GMT
You say it is 'hard to judge them so far imo' and yet you are quite happy to disparage Holy after a mere FOUR league games.. Munchy, I agree with you re Armstrong, good strikers have a habit of being in the right place at the right time but he seems to me to hardly ever be in the right place any of the time A mere 4 games is that how we are going to debate this. Holy didn't join the club in the summer, a mere 4 games, how disingenuous are you trying to be? He has always been a flaky keeper that can't catch, command his box and struggles with daisy cutter shots. Don't forget his awful kicking, every other one appeared to go out of play. Standing behind the dugout watching and listening to Simpson, I reckon he was dropped as much for that as for his gaffs.
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Post by markovitch1928 on Apr 7, 2024 20:05:34 GMT
Is it my imagination, or does Lewis only kick with his right foot? Certainly seemed like it yesterday. Don't they spend all week kicking with both?
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Post by pigletphoenix on Apr 7, 2024 23:24:24 GMT
Is it my imagination, or does Lewis only kick with his right foot? Certainly seemed like it yesterday. Don't they spend all week kicking with both? I don't reckon it's unreasonable for a keeper to mostly kick with their leading foot. Of all Lewis' faults (and there are many) it seems a little odd to pick up on something almost entirely irrelevant.
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Post by markovitch1928 on Apr 8, 2024 6:49:45 GMT
Is it my imagination, or does Lewis only kick with his right foot? Certainly seemed like it yesterday. Don't they spend all week kicking with both? I don't reckon it's unreasonable for a keeper to mostly kick with their leading foot. Of all Lewis' faults (and there are many) it seems a little odd to pick up on something almost entirely irrelevant. So if the ball comes over the top on Lewis's left side he should take a touch to switch it to his right foot? No, IMO. That's why they practice all week with both feet, or most keepers do. You're the expert in multiple personality syndrome. What ever happened to Frank? Or do we have two unskilled Sunderland fans? What did we do wrong in a previous life to deserve that?
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Post by blencathra on Apr 8, 2024 7:14:37 GMT
I'd be happy if we got rid of all of our keepers apart from Breeze and brought in a new experienced first choice one. I'm unconvinced with Lewis and think the money could have been better spent.
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Post by weloveyoucarlisle on Apr 8, 2024 7:31:34 GMT
It is very open on valid opinions this season. The goalkeeper is rubbish. The goalkeeper is fine it is the defence at fault. The forwards are crap. The forwards are so bad because we have a poor midfield who do not create anything for them. You could make a case for each of these and be correct. Excellent point, Munchy. I mentioned chopping and changing goalies as a possible additional reason for the dreadful season, before reading this thread, on the relegation thread. Mrs WLYC, Nipples, and I were all fans of Tomas. Yes, he could be poor at stopping low shots, but anyone at this level has their weaknesses. He's obviously an emotional individual, so dropping him so quickly wouldn't have helped his confidence. We weren't impressed with the Icelander - and Breeze only had a few "easy" games. Simmo probably had his reasons at the time, but he openly admits to having made mistakes this season. Dithering with the goalies might have been one of them. I still maintain that the failure to score sufficient goals was the bigger problem, because drawing or losing games results in very few points. And attack is the best form of defence. You need to consistently find the back of your opponent's net.
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Post by bstandbob on Apr 8, 2024 8:18:05 GMT
I completely disagree on the point that we haven't scored enough goals. For me it's been the other end that has cost us our place in this league. In 2024 we have failed to score in 4 of 18 games. Pompy at the other end of the table have failed to score in 3 of 18 games, so almost identical to us. We have only kept 2 clean sheets in 42 games, if we had kept 6 more which taking out individual errors would have been more than achievable we would probably be still in with a chance of survival.
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