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Post by wukkie on Jun 6, 2024 16:27:06 GMT
Branthwaite will be thinking to himself, cue Pet Shop Boys ''What have I,What have I,What have I Dunk to deserve this?''.
I guess Dunk's 'displays' against Brazil and Belgium have got him a place.
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Post by topstepwhinger on Jun 6, 2024 16:41:34 GMT
Dunk! Why? As Heilkmoon stated earlier in the thread, Dunk is an accident just waiting to happen. Not many left footers, hopefully Shaw is fit.
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Post by thefoot on Jun 6, 2024 16:43:28 GMT
Southgate is a muppet
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Post by topstepwhinger on Jun 6, 2024 16:47:54 GMT
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Post by dstander on Jun 6, 2024 18:09:21 GMT
Because he’s made a decision you don’t agree with? He’s dropped all the players who folk were clamouring to be dropped, he’s chosen some exciting youngsters, he’s picked probably around 24 players who most folk would have picked, but because he’s made a couple of tight calls (which may prove to be pretty irrelevant calls anyway) which some people don’t agree with, he’s a muppet?! Grow up man.
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Post by thefoot on Jun 6, 2024 18:11:38 GMT
Because he’s made a decision you don’t agree with? He’s dropped all the players who folk were clamouring to be dropped, he’s chosen some exciting youngsters, he’s picked probably around 24 players who most folk would have picked, but because he’s made a couple of tight calls (which may prove to be pretty irrelevant calls anyway) which some people don’t agree with, he’s a muppet?! Grow up man. Chill out man. I didn't realise I was offending someone you have strong feelings for.
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Post by dstander on Jun 6, 2024 18:22:30 GMT
Because he’s made a decision you don’t agree with? He’s dropped all the players who folk were clamouring to be dropped, he’s chosen some exciting youngsters, he’s picked probably around 24 players who most folk would have picked, but because he’s made a couple of tight calls (which may prove to be pretty irrelevant calls anyway) which some people don’t agree with, he’s a muppet?! Grow up man. Chill out man. I didn't realise I was offending someone you have strong feelings for. Just the needless, personal criticism of our national team manager, especially going into a major tournament when we should all be getting behind him and the team, pisses me off. It’s pathetic in all honesty. Fair enough if you don’t agree with his selections and decisions but to brand him a muppet because he’s left a certain player out is childish.
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Post by thefoot on Jun 6, 2024 18:35:07 GMT
Chill out man. I didn't realise I was offending someone you have strong feelings for. Just the needless, personal criticism of our national team manager, especially going into a major tournament when we should all be getting behind him and the team, pisses me off. It’s pathetic in all honesty. Fair enough if you don’t agree with his selections and decisions but to brand him a muppet because he’s left a certain player out is childish. It's not just because of the Branthwaite decision. I've disagreed with countless decisions he's made over the years. I find him to be a totally underwhelming manager of our national team during an era where we've had some amazing talent. If you love him, fair enough. You get behind him.
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Post by kickergold on Jun 6, 2024 18:36:23 GMT
Chill out man. I didn't realise I was offending someone you have strong feelings for. Just the needless, personal criticism of our national team manager, especially going into a major tournament when we should all be getting behind him and the team, pisses me off. It’s pathetic in all honesty. Fair enough if you don’t agree with his selections and decisions but to brand him a muppet because he’s left a certain player out is childish. thefoot's response is embarassing. I'm sick of people just ragging on our national manager for no reason instead of getting behind the team, which by the way is playing some great stuff in major games atm. Half the time when you ask why they're mad they don't even know, they just have vague ideas of Southgate being 'conservative' or 'boring' based on reading it somewhere else.
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Post by crunchblue on Jun 6, 2024 18:40:09 GMT
Get behind the national team you c***s
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Post by thefoot on Jun 6, 2024 18:40:49 GMT
Just the needless, personal criticism of our national team manager, especially going into a major tournament when we should all be getting behind him and the team, pisses me off. It’s pathetic in all honesty. Fair enough if you don’t agree with his selections and decisions but to brand him a muppet because he’s left a certain player out is childish. thefoot's response is embarassing. I'm sick of people just ragging on our national manager for no reason instead of getting behind the team, which by the way is playing some great stuff in major games atm. Half the time when you ask why they're mad they don't even know, they just have vague ideas of Southgate being 'conservative' or 'boring' based on reading it somewhere else. Stop crying. You like Southgate, and I don't. Get over it.
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Post by vallery on Jun 6, 2024 18:59:07 GMT
It's really difficult to criticise his record though, WC semi final (lost in extra time), Euro final (lost on penalties), WC quarters (lost to eventual finalists and missing a pen to take it to extra time).
He's also going to make decisions that you don't agree with, it's football, we all have a different opinion on pretty much everything. Personally I'd have found a place for Grealish (probably instead of Bowen or Toney) but that call is unlikely to be the decision that gets us knocked out.
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Post by dstander on Jun 6, 2024 20:03:32 GMT
Just the needless, personal criticism of our national team manager, especially going into a major tournament when we should all be getting behind him and the team, pisses me off. It’s pathetic in all honesty. Fair enough if you don’t agree with his selections and decisions but to brand him a muppet because he’s left a certain player out is childish. It's not just because of the Branthwaite decision. I've disagreed with countless decisions he's made over the years. I find him to be a totally underwhelming manager of our national team during an era where we've had some amazing talent. If you love him, fair enough. You get behind him. We’ve had better talent several times over the last 40 years yet no manager in that time has done as well as Southgate. Nobody slags off Venables or Robson or Eriksson with personal abuse though. Venables is/was seen as a legend in many quarters, yet he couldn’t even get past a semi final in a home tournament full of average teams. Maybe it’s because he’s a bit of cheeky chappy, wide boy whereas Southgate is a bit more straight laced.
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Post by wukkie on Jun 6, 2024 20:09:26 GMT
There was some excellent teams in Euro 96. Germany, England, Holland, Czech Republic off the top of my head.
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Post by thefoot on Jun 6, 2024 20:26:29 GMT
It's really difficult to criticise his record though, WC semi final (lost in extra time), Euro final (lost on penalties), WC quarters (lost to eventual finalists and missing a pen to take it to extra time). He's also going to make decisions that you don't agree with, it's football, we all have a different opinion on pretty much everything. Personally I'd have found a place for Grealish (probably instead of Bowen or Toney) but that call is unlikely to be the decision that gets us knocked out. Obviously we all have different opinions. My opinion is that Southgate as a manager has won nothing and despite his England record sounding good, I think he could have and should have done better. How do we know that not selecting Grealish & Branthwaite won't make a huge difference? Probably not if he wasn't planning on playing them anyway, but every decision has the potential to make a huge difference.
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