sussexblue
Stephane Pounewatchy
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Post by sussexblue on Jan 23, 2024 15:19:34 GMT
Totally agree with all the comments and what a breath of fresh air new owners are, there certainly in it for the long term that’s for sure , the mere fact that so early into there new ownership they’ve employed architects, had surveyors done and submitted drawings for planning is pretty amazing just doing this must have cost at least £25k, and I to would class this as being one of there quick wins with plans for Warwick , with all this to look forward to a relegation this year wouldn’t be the end of world with uncle tom in charge
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Post by crunchblue on Jan 23, 2024 15:20:53 GMT
It's now crystal clear that the old Project Blue Yonder was nothing but a fantasy idea to feed the fans. Jenkins/Nixon/Pattison had no intention of ever going forward with, that much was obvious. It was simply a way of deflecting, to make it seem like they were doing something proactive to take the heat off while they sit and let Brunton Park fester.
This is a quote from their Blue Yonder questions and answers when asked about whether it's possible to develop the East Stand...
'Due to the poor design of the East Stand the internal areas are either too small for corporate boxes, inappropriate layout for a restaurant and unsuitable for lettable spaces.'
Now proven to be lies.
I'm sure I even recall them saying something about the structure of the East Stand being so bad it can't have any renovations whatsoever. (although I can't find that quote)
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Post by bstandbob on Jan 23, 2024 15:24:28 GMT
It's now crystal clear that the old Project Blue Yonder was nothing but a fantasy idea to feed the fans. Jenkins/Nixon/Pattison had no intention of ever going forward with, that much was obvious. It was simply a way of deflecting, to make it seem like they were doing something proactive to take the heat off while they sit and let Brunton Park fester. This is a quote from their Blue Yonder questions and answers when asked about whether it's possible to develop the East Stand... 'Due to the poor design of the East Stand the internal areas are either too small for corporate boxes, inappropriate layout for a restaurant and unsuitable for lettable spaces.'Now proven to be lies. I'm sure I even recall them saying something about the structure of the East Stand being so bad it can't have any renovations whatsoever. (although I can't find that quote) Yep, treaded like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed shite |
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Post by luaphal on Jan 23, 2024 15:37:28 GMT
Shame they are not clearer cant make out a lot of the detail.
Is the WRE from behind and minus the existing roof?
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Post by mullen103 on Jan 23, 2024 15:39:04 GMT
It's now crystal clear that the old Project Blue Yonder was nothing but a fantasy idea to feed the fans. Jenkins/Nixon/Pattison had no intention of ever going forward with, that much was obvious. It was simply a way of deflecting, to make it seem like they were doing something proactive to take the heat off while they sit and let Brunton Park fester. This is a quote from their Blue Yonder questions and answers when asked about whether it's possible to develop the East Stand... 'Due to the poor design of the East Stand the internal areas are either too small for corporate boxes, inappropriate layout for a restaurant and unsuitable for lettable spaces.'Now proven to be lies. I'm sure I even recall them saying something about the structure of the East Stand being so bad it can't have any renovations whatsoever. (although I can't find that quote) It’s why I got at them for - they talked utter shite and what was worrying people believed them. I went to that blue yonder meeting where Jenkins admitted to me they never spoke to the council - I knew then it was a non starter. We were constantly fed nonsense about the east stand, the truth is they didn’t have the money or the vision and were happy with the 1970s board room set up they had - as long as they were happy sod the rest attitude. The Piataks understand the supporters, I’ve got that every time I’ve listened to them. |
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Post by letsboogie on Jan 23, 2024 15:49:34 GMT
It worked a treat for them for 15 year or whatever it was. Fob us off, then fob us off again, somebody approaches with a decent sounding takeover proposal, delay delay, then mystery billionaire turns up, fob us off again, blue yonder bollocks, fob us off, delay…. all while dragging out the ownership of THEIR (not us mugs) club/hobby!
I’m amazed the Piatak’s got it as quick as they did in the end.
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blue22
Stephane Pounewatchy
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Post by blue22 on Jan 23, 2024 16:42:50 GMT
Do these plans indicate that the realignment of the pitch is not something that is going to be considered? I was rather hoping that the Waterworks would be pushed back, with the Warwick following suit, so everything lined up with the East Stand. This would potentially allow space for a decent sized fanzone behind the Warwick. NB I am certainly not criticising what we are being shown by any means, as this is light years ahead of what the previous owners came up with during their tenure. I realise that any realignment would probably involve the line of the flood defence being adjusted accordingly, however I don't think that would present an insurmountable problem. I hope it is just a short term quick win tbh as the facilities in there are dire as we know, the pitch has to be moved in time if we are ever serious about redeveloping the ground, we need a new away stand for when we get in the Championship say 5 years from now and a new Warwick end with facilities more akin to this century. I am guessing until they have indoor training facilities we cant knock down the Neil centre, hopefully they will tell us in time what their plans are, what has been achieved in 2 months so far is amazing, their communication is great for us fans, no more drudge and secret society bollox! |
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Post by 09sider on Jan 23, 2024 17:00:04 GMT
Possible renaming of the east stand, to Jenkins the liar stand.
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Post by moonie on Jan 23, 2024 17:09:11 GMT
Think any potential new stand should wait until the training facilities are done. Great to see things moving forward after 15 years of stagnation.
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Post by sned88cufc on Jan 23, 2024 17:10:52 GMT
I'm unclear of what the plans are for the roof of the Warwick Rd End, everyone knows the acoustics are awful, and although when your in there you can hear the chants, but all of the other stands can barely hear the chanting. Also what about an official singing section?
They also need better security in there, as the stewarding is shocking.
Will the turnstiles be improved? Like bigger clubs they have scanners on them, instead of a teenage boy.
Has the boiler been plumbed in so we have undersoil heating? Meaning less likely to have games called off?
Any plans to upgrade the advert hoardings to electronic ones? Extra income maybe?
Also is there still a bookies in the East Stand? Aint been in there for years
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zebby
Richard Prokas
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Post by zebby on Jan 23, 2024 17:17:44 GMT
Isn't it amazing to have such ambitious, pro active and positive owners, so many projects big and small going on and being planned that will be of huge benefit to the club ...for too long a lick of paint, cleaning bird shit off seats and a new bog roll in the ladies was classed as ground improvement...
Pinching myself
UTB
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briary
Stephane Pounewatchy
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Post by briary on Jan 23, 2024 17:23:13 GMT
This is fantastic news and great for us as fans to be kept informed. While they will be spending money on this it should generate extra income and improve the fan experience which will enable further developments to be made down the line. While some would like the pitch aligned now it’s great to see changes being made in a sustainable manner. It will take time and a lot more money to get it all as they would like it. I am sure if anyone has any constructive criticisms of the plans as shown their views will be taken on board which is a huge change from the previous ownership.
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Post by pigletphoenix on Jan 23, 2024 18:08:40 GMT
Possible renaming of the east stand, to Jenkins the liar stand. In fairness, wasn't it Clibbens (and Nixon) telling the lies? You'd be lucky to get anything above Father Jack standard out of old Jenks. |
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Post by bstandbob on Jan 23, 2024 18:21:28 GMT
It all makes perfect sense, invest in the short term and should help generate more revenue to fund longer term projects at BP.
Training facility is obviously what is been prioritised and is going to take a substantial amount of finance and energy.
Lots to look forward to and fantastic we now are able to have things to look forward to.
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Post by blues86 on Jan 23, 2024 18:29:35 GMT
It's now crystal clear that the old Project Blue Yonder was nothing but a fantasy idea to feed the fans. Jenkins/Nixon/Pattison had no intention of ever going forward with, that much was obvious. It was simply a way of deflecting, to make it seem like they were doing something proactive to take the heat off while they sit and let Brunton Park fester. This is a quote from their Blue Yonder questions and answers when asked about whether it's possible to develop the East Stand... 'Due to the poor design of the East Stand the internal areas are either too small for corporate boxes, inappropriate layout for a restaurant and unsuitable for lettable spaces.'Now proven to be lies. I'm sure I even recall them saying something about the structure of the East Stand being so bad it can't have any renovations whatsoever. (although I can't find that quote) I seem to remember claims at the time it would cost £18m or so to fix the East stand? Total rubbish. Aim of the game, in my opinion at least, was to put as little in as they could get away with to keep the old boys club going. Jenkins is worth £15m+ apparently, but he couldn't afford to pay for a new WRE toilet block? |
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