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Post by happyblue on Apr 29, 2024 10:13:21 GMT
It's a 5m£, business. You collect gate money 3x a month and pay wages once , all off which is 90%+ automated. What do they do all day? Hardly an endless job to calculate win bonuses. I'm sure they created the extra position because of a lack of workload in other areas. Remember Marko is not very good at assumptions, and logical thinking.
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Post by markovitch1928 on Apr 29, 2024 10:25:47 GMT
Good to see us adding some more positions behind the scenes to reduce workload on people who have likely been doing many jobs. Presumably the kind of thing that wasn't possible before the Piataks. Look forward to seeing how adding organisation in the club will be seen as a bad thing by some. Got my bingo card ready It's a 5m£, business. You collect gate money 3x a month and pay wages once , all off which is 90%+ automated. What do they do all day? Hardly an endless job to calculate win bonuses.
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Post by happyblue on Apr 29, 2024 10:32:49 GMT
Good to see us adding some more positions behind the scenes to reduce workload on people who have likely been doing many jobs. Presumably the kind of thing that wasn't possible before the Piataks. Look forward to seeing how adding organisation in the club will be seen as a bad thing by some. Got my bingo card ready It's a 5m£, business. You collect gate money 3x a month and pay wages once , all off which is 90%+ automated. What do they do all day? Hardly an endless job to calculate win bonuses. Marko they are not appoint another accountant , are you actually ok ? Do you not understand basic logic . Honestly some of the stuff you keep posting on here is worrying , like you seem to be completely out of reality. Running a club involves far more than ticket sales.
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Post by garnyam on Apr 29, 2024 10:39:07 GMT
It's a 5m£, business. You collect gate money 3x a month and pay wages once , all off which is 90%+ automated. What do they do all day? Hardly an endless job to calculate win bonuses. Marko they are not appoint another accountant , are you actually ok ? Do you not understand basic logic . Honestly some of the stuff you keep posting on here is worrying , like you seem to be completely out of reality. Running a club involves far more than ticket sales. Are the personal insults really necessary? Poor form!
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Post by kickergold on Apr 29, 2024 10:51:17 GMT
Marko they are not appoint another accountant , are you actually ok ? Do you not understand basic logic . Honestly some of the stuff you keep posting on here is worrying , like you seem to be completely out of reality. Running a club involves far more than ticket sales. Are the personal insults really necessary? Poor form! This place has been a real struggle since the new year. I disagree with people a lot, but honestly it's tedious having any discussion because people insult each other half the time. Hopefully some decent football will restore the sanity, but who knows these days.
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Post by happyblue on Apr 29, 2024 10:52:22 GMT
Marko they are not appoint another accountant , are you actually ok ? Do you not understand basic logic . Honestly some of the stuff you keep posting on here is worrying , like you seem to be completely out of reality. Running a club involves far more than ticket sales. Are the personal insults really necessary? Poor form! Generally not but After my last debate with Mark I've got little respect for him.
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Post by garnyam on Apr 29, 2024 10:59:38 GMT
Are the personal insults really necessary? Poor form! Generally not but After my last debate with Mark I've got little respect for him. Then just ignore his posts and save yourself and everyone else the hassle and bad feeling it creates.
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Post by happyblue on Apr 29, 2024 11:00:04 GMT
The Piataks are looking to Maximize all revenue sources, we are increasing corporate hospitality , we have have increased advertising capabilities, we have increased in catering , we have commercial venues being built that can operate 365 days a year , we have a training ground project on the way. These take resources and staffing time , so only makes sense that Clibbens needs an assistant.
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Post by happyblue on Apr 29, 2024 11:02:06 GMT
All of the tasks in the job description are things accountants do. I used to work in price Waterhouse coopers football group. Football is one of the easiest businesses in the world to be an accountant in. It only gets difficult with businesses that are functions of things like governments because the rules for them are different. If there is work, there is work. But I'm wondering what it is. My job has similar responsibilities (just not football related ) and I'm not an accountant , you doing the job is probably why you view it. There is a lot to running a football club , it's just not about match days.
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Post by gob Bluth on Apr 29, 2024 11:14:25 GMT
The Piataks are looking to Maximize all revenue sources, we are increasing corporate hospitality , we have have increased advertising capabilities, we have increased in catering , we have commercial venues being built that can operate 365 days a year , we have a training ground project on the way. These take resources and staffing time , so only makes sense that Clibbens needs an assistant. Tom senior said in interviews last week we have something like 100 projects on the go. To ensure we’ve capacity at leadership level we’d need more support. That’s what this hire is to free up time/capacity of CEO, club secretary, marketing, finance people to ensure they can focus on their core roles. Look at this another way, having this support for likes of the CEO removes the ability to make excuses for not executing key tasks and can greatly increase accountability.
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Post by blue22 on Apr 29, 2024 12:52:04 GMT
Are the personal insults really necessary? Poor form! Generally not but After my last debate with Mark I've got little respect for him. Perhaps you should consider your own responses to people on here not just Marko, you have responded to a few posts I have made on different subjects and other posters and your style is patronising on quite a few occasions, we are here to discuss all things CUFC, surely this can be done in a respectful manner without the need for the put downs.
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Post by markovitch1928 on Apr 29, 2024 13:06:06 GMT
I guess it's a philosophy thing. I comment on football finance because I worked in football finance. I don't comment on training grounds because I don't know anything about planning processes. Happy to read about it to learn but what can I say? For the football I always write 'in my opinion', or I think because it's an opinion and my opinion is no more or less important than anyone else's. Its not a fact. Unfortunately, there is a small handful of people who infest every thread. They have no appreciable skills or knowledge, so they can't have a discussion. They just retreat into you're an idiot, you never worked there, did that, because it's all they can do. If you have no understanding, there can be no point of reference.
All you can do is learn from it. The people on here might be unskilled nothings, but we come across people whose sole skill is screaming like the loudest toddler all the time in life. And sometimes they have power. So watch how arguments are formed, how words are twisted, and use it, turn what seems like an unpleasant negative into a positive. Psychology 101, invaluable tool.
Edited to say I think others are jealous I have my own creepy stalkers who follow me from thread to thread. They might be dumb and rude but leave my boys alone! Don't want them following anyone else
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Post by kickergold on Apr 29, 2024 13:24:22 GMT
I guess it's a philosophy thing. I comment on football finance because I worked in football finance. I don't comment on training grounds because I don't know anything about planning processes. Happy to read about it to learn but what can I say? For the football I always write 'in my opinion', or I think because it's an opinion and my opinion is no more or less important than anyone else's. Its not a fact. Unfortunately, there is a small handful of people who infest every thread. They have no appreciable skills or knowledge, so they can't have a discussion. They just retreat into you're an idiot, you never worked there, did that, because it's all they can do. If you have no understanding, there can be no point of reference. All you can do is learn from it. The people on here might be unskilled nothings, but we come across people whose sole skill is screaming like the loudest toddler all the time in life. And sometimes they have power. So watch how arguments are formed, how words are twisted, and use it, turn what seems like an unpleasant negative into a positive. Psychology 101, invaluable tool. Edited to say I think others are jealous I have my own creepy stalkers who follow me from thread to thread. They might be dumb and rude but leave my boys alone! Don't want them following anyone else Just some freaks on here. I don't know what the issue is with the Internet these days, but I don't think people know how to have a debate now... I appreciate your position, although I imagine any position being created within the club currently is because of a burning need for it. Think we've been understaffed for years rather than the other way round, which is why we're so far behind.
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Post by happyblue on Apr 29, 2024 13:29:16 GMT
I guess it's a philosophy thing. I comment on football finance because I worked in football finance. I don't comment on training grounds because I don't know anything about planning processes. Happy to read about it to learn but what can I say? For the football I always write 'in my opinion', or I think because it's an opinion and my opinion is no more or less important than anyone else's. Its not a fact. Unfortunately, there is a small handful of people who infest every thread. They have no appreciable skills or knowledge, so they can't have a discussion. They just retreat into you're an idiot, you never worked there, did that, because it's all they can do. If you have no understanding, there can be no point of reference. All you can do is learn from it. The people on here might be unskilled nothings, but we come across people whose sole skill is screaming like the loudest toddler all the time in life. And sometimes they have power. So watch how arguments are formed, how words are twisted, and use it, turn what seems like an unpleasant negative into a positive. Psychology 101, invaluable tool. Edited to say I think others are jealous I have my own creepy stalkers who follow me from thread to thread. They might be dumb and rude but leave my boys alone! Don't want them following anyone else Marko I am sorry I have been rude to you , you have irked my with the comments around the Harris debate .The reason for that is you persisted with arguing despite me knowing I was right , it shocked me at your level of refusal to accept they your logic was wrong . As for this whole stalking thing, give your ego a rest. They are limited new posts on the forum and you post a lot , generally assumption based, which are often poor which has actually been pointed out by several posters and not just my self.
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Post by weloveyoucarlisle on Apr 29, 2024 13:34:21 GMT
Are the personal insults really necessary? Poor form! This place has been a real struggle since the new year. I disagree with people a lot, but honestly it's tedious having any discussion because people insult each other half the time. Hopefully some decent football will restore the sanity, but who knows these days. You need to listen to the lyrics of Bob Dylan's "Things Have Changed" - not that it'll help much. 🎼🎶🤣
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