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Post by ragingblue on Apr 29, 2024 17:02:14 GMT
A very interesting watch / listen.
Main takeaways for me:
- Major personality issues in the dressing room this season, I’d imagine they’re all being shown the door. Worrying however given “attitude” is continually referenced as a key part of our recruitment strategy.
- Hunts has done zero coaching badges so him staying on as a player coach never an option.
- A number of players under contract have been told they’re surplus to requirements, from his demeanour I suspect it’s a lot.
- Reference to focusing on a squad with more athleticism, thank god!
- Confirmed our focus in 24/25 is PROMOTION. I’m glad he’s come out and said it and not tried to play down our ambition.
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Post by blumineauxnoir on Apr 29, 2024 17:50:31 GMT
Personality issues are something he should have identified and sorted before it became an issue.
If he`d stamped down on this from the moment it began, it might not have escalated to where it seems
there were more than a few that might be in this category. He could then have done what he did to Whelan
with all of them, dropped them, and played who he had available.
Things wouldn`t really have been any worse.
Hopefully this is where all the new data and scouting info they`ll be looking at comes in. But worrying that
these players were signed in the first place, if we didn`t know enough about their character to begin with.
If he doesn`t get it right over the summer, and bring in the right kind of players, then it`s going to look really bad for him.
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Post by northernsoul on Apr 30, 2024 5:59:53 GMT
So basically hes saying that hes going to allow some of them who made the dressing room toxic this year back in again next year to do the same thing over again.
Madness complete and utter madness
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Post by blueal on Apr 30, 2024 6:54:30 GMT
Are players attitudes the problem (quite a few, by the sound of it) or is the boss the problem? Hmmmmm....
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Post by weloveyoucarlisle on Apr 30, 2024 7:12:13 GMT
I'm pleased Simmo has clearly stated there's been a lack of professionalism shown by certain players. The reasons for this will be complex, but the change of ownership must have been one factor. For some, change is unsettling because it exposes their weaknesses. Moxy wanting to move on wouldn't have helped. Gibson has always been an issue. Etc etc etc.
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Post by vallery on Apr 30, 2024 7:29:23 GMT
The interview is interesting. Obviously Simpson feels there are a couple of bad apples who have impacted badly on the dressing room. Hopefully he can get rid of any that are still under contract, if their contracts aren't already coming to an end. Reflects badly on them, I don't care how unhappy you are in a job you should continue to act professionally and leave on good terms. Actively undermining those trying to do the right things stinks.
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Post by vallery on Apr 30, 2024 7:36:10 GMT
Going back to the released list, we have lost 11 players (6 first team end of contract plus the 5 returning loanees). I don't expect all of those to be directly replaced as it sounded like we tried to move some players on in January and failed. Whelan wasn't even registered so doubt they'll be looking to directly replaced everyone leaving. I wonder what size of squad they would ideally like?
Surely, if we were entering a reserve/B /under 23 team for next year we'd have to be giving notice to those leagues. The fact we haven't heard anything on that front suggests there won't be one.
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Post by orfc on Apr 30, 2024 7:45:50 GMT
Logically it must be players he brought in in the summer / January / or in loan with the bad attitude, as he said the dressing room atmosphere was great when we got promoted?
Let's get detecting...
Kayode wasn't here pretty much so can't be him whatever his end of season
Icelandic unspellable goalie the same
Plange had been noted in another loan for a lack of effort
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Post by vallery on Apr 30, 2024 8:08:11 GMT
Logically it must be players he brought in in the summer / January / or in loan with the bad attitude, as he said the dressing room atmosphere was great when we got promoted? Let's get detecting... Kayode wasn't here pretty much so can't be him whatever his end of season Icelandic unspellable goalie the same Plange had been noted in another loan for a lack of effort I don't think you can rule out players who have been here longer. Easy to be keen and give your best when you're doing well, different altogether when the team are struggling. Reading between the lines and going from players Simpson has seemed reluctant to use I'd say you can start with Gibson and McCalmont? More than that, who knows? |
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Post by markovitch1928 on Apr 30, 2024 8:18:58 GMT
Plange was sent back for a bad attitude.
The club captain didn't travel to away games, but of a give away.
Our best player couldn't get a game.
Two championship loanees, both of whom were best in position, hardly got a kick.
[br)
Hints for me
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Post by ulverstonblue on Apr 30, 2024 8:20:37 GMT
Taking to someone the other week who worked for a long time at a professional club. He said when your team's at the bottom and getting relegated the players always fall out with each and say things to each other. He suggested to the fact that most players aren't very intelligent and have big egos ...so it isn't a case of wipe the slate clean at the end of the season. A lot of players never forget or let bygones be bygones so all the fallouts,feuds and bullshit is carried on into the next season regardless of what the manager says. If this is the case the only remedy is to move certain players on asap. Simpson has certainly alluded to this in his interview.
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Post by garnyam on Apr 30, 2024 8:27:33 GMT
Logically it must be players he brought in in the summer / January / or in loan with the bad attitude, as he said the dressing room atmosphere was great when we got promoted? Let's get detecting... Kayode wasn't here pretty much so can't be him whatever his end of season Icelandic unspellable goalie the same Plange had been noted in another loan for a lack of effort But, as wlyc keeps repeating over and over: it must be Gibson's fault. The whole sorry saga and capitulation was all down to one man.....J. Gibson! Absolutely nothing to do with recruitment, formations, personnel, coaching, man management, tactics, etc. etc. Nope, Gibbo's attitude and only his attitude, relegated this club. |
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Post by happyblue on Apr 30, 2024 8:35:48 GMT
Plange was sent back for a bad attitude. The club captain didn't travel to away games, but of a give away. Our best player couldn't get a game. Two championship loanees, both of whom were best in position, hardly got a kick. Few hints Are you sure ? Plange yes but already gone . Are you talking about Finn Back and Kayode as they were the only two on loan from the championship and I would say both were due to injuries . Simmo talked quite highly of Huntingdon in the interview after , so it doesn't sound like him. Gibson and Mccalmont are the names who keep popping up . |
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Post by weloveyoucarlisle on Apr 30, 2024 8:43:03 GMT
Logically it must be players he brought in in the summer / January / or in loan with the bad attitude, as he said the dressing room atmosphere was great when we got promoted? Let's get detecting... Kayode wasn't here pretty much so can't be him whatever his end of season Icelandic unspellable goalie the same Plange had been noted in another loan for a lack of effort But, as wlyc keeps repeating over and over: it must be Gibson's fault. The whole sorry saga and capitulation was all down to one man.....J. Gibson! Absolutely nothing to do with recruitment, formations, personnel, coaching, man management, tactics, etc. etc. Nope, Gibbo's attitude and only his attitude, relegated this club. I have never thought nor said that our troubles were down to one player, so please don't totally misrepresent my views. Yes, it's been no secret that Gibson's attitude has been problematic - all along, not just this season. I have consistently argued that the main issue has been the erosion of confidence. When this happens, some players will make silly excuses and otherwise act unprofessionally. |
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Post by garnyam on Apr 30, 2024 8:51:34 GMT
But, as wlyc keeps repeating over and over: it must be Gibson's fault. The whole sorry saga and capitulation was all down to one man.....J. Gibson! Absolutely nothing to do with recruitment, formations, personnel, coaching, man management, tactics, etc. etc. Nope, Gibbo's attitude and only his attitude, relegated this club. I have never thought nor said that our troubles were down to one player, so please don't totally misrepresent my views. Yes, it's been no secret that Gibson's attitude has been problematic - all along, not just this season. I have consistently argued that the main issue has been the erosion of confidence. When this happens, some players will make silly excuses and otherwise act unprofessionally. Trouble is, your 'views' are just that and not facts. Now, he's been a problem 'all along'. Again, your opinion and nothing else. Not an ounce of critical thinking on your part. |
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